If you want the trad Catholics to become anti-Semitic, keep telling the world they are anti-Semitic. People often get tricked into defending what they are accused of, if the accusation is spread broadly and deep by the culture.
Like after being called a racist(all white people are racists, systemic racism is the bedrock of America, white supremacists lurk everywhere) so many times that I fear I have become more of a racist?
It tends to happen when you get attacked constantly. I was a moderate classical liberal going into graduate school, but I ended up further right than I was comfortable with by the end, simply as a result of the constant pressure. If one good thing came from the Iraq War for me, it was that it pushed me back to where I started and made me realize that I could not be a Republican.
Jan 6th made me leave the GOP. In my state you canтАЩt vote in primaries unless registered as a party member, so I switched to Dem to do the same thing as when I was GOP, ie, vote for the most sane and least crazy person in the primary as an effort to keep the loonies out of office.
I think the Biden Justice Department is pushing me to register as an R. Trump and Garland each give us one part of a despotism: refusal to transfer power and political prosecutions.
Please do not get caught in the label trap. What it means to be Republican or Democrat evolves. It is evolving mightily at this particular point in time. Those who do not keep up cast their ballot for things they do not support.
I won't know until it gets closer to the election whether I will temporarily register R or D. It all depends on who needs the assist. If anyone else is close to catching up to Trump, I will help them. If RJK Jr looks like he has a chance, I'll help him.
It is wild times, for sure. My instinct is the same - way to early to get my heart set on anyone. I do not see a white knight in the mix and heaven knows we need one. I see RFK, Jr as a possible in the role but I have this really creepy feeling he would not survive.
Which part? Not deciding early? Needing a white knight? Or RFK, Jr. not surviving? If the latter that is certainly not my wish, just a creepy instinct which I do not like it at all. BTW I do not think it would be anyone from the right who would take such an action.
It has become obligatory to mention that Vatican II disavowed antisemitism. It's just a way of smearing people who disagree with other major aspects of Vatican II as antisemitic lugs. I mean, if you don't like Vatican II, it's obvious that you want to go back to burning Jewish businesses after the yearly Passion Play, right?
There was a lot of good in Vatican II (including that) but it came at a time when people were letting down their hair (literally). The 60s were a turbulent era and the church seemed to relax so many beautiful traditions to keep up with the times.
Fun fact about Vatican II: Gregorian Chant, in Latin, was actually promoted by V2 as the ideal mode for mass propers. It died off however, due to a 10 year gap during which no one had updated the chant books to conform to the Novus Ordo. So by the time parish priests had access to a tool kit to even use Gregorian Chant again, alternative musical forms had taken root. Time to bring it back!
I have a friend that had her entire wedding mass in Gregorian Chant in 2012. I am not a Catholic, and that was the first Catholic ceremony I ever saw, so it made no sense to me. Was pretty, though.
It was so disconnected, I actually thought for a second thatтАЩs how she was ending the article. I had to scroll down on my phone to look for more text and as I continued, I thought, тАЬUgh, that was weird?тАЭ But all comments re: the tenor/tone of this piece are well taken. The FP is small тАЬlтАЭ liberal until itтАЩs kind of not.
тАЬChrist killersтАЭ. Remember how many condemned Mel Gibson for promoting that concept in his film? He was simply portraying whatтАЩs written in the gospels which called out both church leadership and the Romans who were really representatives of mankind in general. The point is......we all are responsible for killing Christ out of our own sin. ItтАЩs why Christ came. ItтАЩs how weтАЩve been given the opportunity for reconciliation to God himself. The Jews, GodтАЩs chosen and the Romans get wrongly accused out of ignorance. But personally knowing some wonderful Jewish people they do confide a real concern for the current wave of anti-semitism in the world. Weiss is only expressing that concern. Get a clue. Give her a break.
It is right that Mel Gibson was condemned for portraying Jews as "Christ killers." Gibson has a history of making anti-Semitic remarks, before and after the film was made. Gibson is not a fine human.
The antisemitism crack was out of left field, there was no connect text, quote, description or anything.
This kind of random gratuitous line is common on the FP whenever they report something outside of their left leaning comfort zone.
have you been doing some noticing?
If you want the trad Catholics to become anti-Semitic, keep telling the world they are anti-Semitic. People often get tricked into defending what they are accused of, if the accusation is spread broadly and deep by the culture.
Like after being called a racist(all white people are racists, systemic racism is the bedrock of America, white supremacists lurk everywhere) so many times that I fear I have become more of a racist?
It tends to happen when you get attacked constantly. I was a moderate classical liberal going into graduate school, but I ended up further right than I was comfortable with by the end, simply as a result of the constant pressure. If one good thing came from the Iraq War for me, it was that it pushed me back to where I started and made me realize that I could not be a Republican.
Jan 6th made me leave the GOP. In my state you canтАЩt vote in primaries unless registered as a party member, so I switched to Dem to do the same thing as when I was GOP, ie, vote for the most sane and least crazy person in the primary as an effort to keep the loonies out of office.
I think the Biden Justice Department is pushing me to register as an R. Trump and Garland each give us one part of a despotism: refusal to transfer power and political prosecutions.
Please do not get caught in the label trap. What it means to be Republican or Democrat evolves. It is evolving mightily at this particular point in time. Those who do not keep up cast their ballot for things they do not support.
That's why I'm an independent.
At this point in time I could not cast a vote for a Democrat but I consider myself a populist and sometimes leave a vote blank.
I won't know until it gets closer to the election whether I will temporarily register R or D. It all depends on who needs the assist. If anyone else is close to catching up to Trump, I will help them. If RJK Jr looks like he has a chance, I'll help him.
It is wild times, for sure. My instinct is the same - way to early to get my heart set on anyone. I do not see a white knight in the mix and heaven knows we need one. I see RFK, Jr as a possible in the role but I have this really creepy feeling he would not survive.
Wow. Just wow. That's radical.
Which part? Not deciding early? Needing a white knight? Or RFK, Jr. not surviving? If the latter that is certainly not my wish, just a creepy instinct which I do not like it at all. BTW I do not think it would be anyone from the right who would take such an action.
You mean somebody would have the audacity to shoot a Kennedy? Never!
Scary times, huh?
It has become obligatory to mention that Vatican II disavowed antisemitism. It's just a way of smearing people who disagree with other major aspects of Vatican II as antisemitic lugs. I mean, if you don't like Vatican II, it's obvious that you want to go back to burning Jewish businesses after the yearly Passion Play, right?
There was a lot of good in Vatican II (including that) but it came at a time when people were letting down their hair (literally). The 60s were a turbulent era and the church seemed to relax so many beautiful traditions to keep up with the times.
Fun fact about Vatican II: Gregorian Chant, in Latin, was actually promoted by V2 as the ideal mode for mass propers. It died off however, due to a 10 year gap during which no one had updated the chant books to conform to the Novus Ordo. So by the time parish priests had access to a tool kit to even use Gregorian Chant again, alternative musical forms had taken root. Time to bring it back!
I have a friend that had her entire wedding mass in Gregorian Chant in 2012. I am not a Catholic, and that was the first Catholic ceremony I ever saw, so it made no sense to me. Was pretty, though.
It was so disconnected, I actually thought for a second thatтАЩs how she was ending the article. I had to scroll down on my phone to look for more text and as I continued, I thought, тАЬUgh, that was weird?тАЭ But all comments re: the tenor/tone of this piece are well taken. The FP is small тАЬlтАЭ liberal until itтАЩs kind of not.
Are yтАЩall referring to the тАЬthey probably donтАЩt believe Jews are Christ-killersтАЭ thing? That was super weird and felt gratuitous.
тАЬChrist killersтАЭ. Remember how many condemned Mel Gibson for promoting that concept in his film? He was simply portraying whatтАЩs written in the gospels which called out both church leadership and the Romans who were really representatives of mankind in general. The point is......we all are responsible for killing Christ out of our own sin. ItтАЩs why Christ came. ItтАЩs how weтАЩve been given the opportunity for reconciliation to God himself. The Jews, GodтАЩs chosen and the Romans get wrongly accused out of ignorance. But personally knowing some wonderful Jewish people they do confide a real concern for the current wave of anti-semitism in the world. Weiss is only expressing that concern. Get a clue. Give her a break.
It is right that Mel Gibson was condemned for portraying Jews as "Christ killers." Gibson has a history of making anti-Semitic remarks, before and after the film was made. Gibson is not a fine human.
Mel Gibson illustrated that we are all responsible for killing Christ when he used his hand nailing Christ to the cross in the Passion.
It was both.
it was also bigoted, plain and simple.