There is no nice way of saying but Californians have to stop voting for Democrats. For decades state has been run by Democratic party on almost every level. Up to early 2000 that might have worked, but now, it is clearly not working. Cities are falling apart, homeless in every park, junkies robing stores in broad daylight with out any fe…
There is no nice way of saying but Californians have to stop voting for Democrats. For decades state has been run by Democratic party on almost every level. Up to early 2000 that might have worked, but now, it is clearly not working. Cities are falling apart, homeless in every park, junkies robing stores in broad daylight with out any fear of law.
Ironic person might say, well California is becoming that what it was up to 1900, Wild West, where outlaws roam free and only small pockets of law hold out.
But in reality, no other state shows how insane woke/progressive polices can destroy a state. This wouldn't be a problem if California transplants weren't escaping in drows to other well run states and bringing their voting habits that they escaped from. I mean, are you blind, you voted for Democrats for 50 years, they in turn have ruined the state to the extent that it is becoming unlivable, and you still want to vote for same ideas?
Nothing better epitomizes decline of California as decline of San Francisco and Los Angeles. Both are looking more and more to some cities in third world where rich elite lives in gated communities while rest of the city is slum where no laws apply.
But worst is, that majority of Californians, would rather vote blue and be forced to jump over needles on streets and human excrement, than vote Republican and have clean and safe cites.
Sometime I think, that California is beyond saving. I just hope, that in case of this decline, the old saying doesn't come true "As California Goes, so Goes the Nation"
To be fair, the Progs have completely corrupted the election process. I don't believe another Republican, conservative, independent will be able to be elected in my lifetime.
God forbid but I’m with you on that one what’s terrifying is the same Californian senators have been there for decades there is no new blood or savvy youngsters to take over so I agree we are doomed
To be blunt, these are local issues. The dysfunction in SF is an SF issue. I live in San Jose and we don't have that dysfunction because we aren't insane. But it is easy to conflate local and state issues in people's minds.
"Sometime I think, that California is beyond saving."
Not quite yet. We'll know that's the case when the immigrants (legal and otherwise) turn around and leave because their new home is actually WORSE than the $hithole place where they came from. It's coming.
Yep, California - grew to a successful paradise under conservative Republicans, destroyed by leftist Democrats. It's really such a simple formula. Every liberal wet dream was implemented in CA and the results are there for anyone to see. Paradise lost. And the real comedy is that the most educated, the most privileged, the most entitled people who supported these policies are too stupid, blind and pig-headed to change course. It would be laughable if not so utterly sad.
Plenty of that - narcissists all. I’m a fifth generation CA with ancestors going back to Mendocino redwood coast/San Francisco. They were hardy Europeans and Few odd Boston folks. Seafaring, rugged - no nonsense types. Now live near Nashville. Not so great here either with a bunch of Democrat, high tech supporters locally. Nor sure the Republicans here are much better.
Which is why our Founders set up a republic ("if you can keep it," said Ben Franklin), trying to protect our fledgling nation from the dangers of pure democracy. The Left is disturbingly eager to get rid of those protections.
No you're correct. The right engages in a great deal of criticism and useless talk that fails to get at the nitty gritty of the issues and completely ignores urgently important component like the WEF/Davos contingent who run the current leftist disaster.
The left however has lost their sanity completely and engages in psychopathological schemes to try to gain further power. They are no longer even left but are off the deep end into supporting Fascist schemes beyond any comprehension
Both sides are corrupt but in the current environment the right are easily able to look like the winners in the discussion. And it's a a very long time until we have "elections". Unless the people actually march peacefully in the streets by the millions there are no options.
"The left however has lost their sanity completely and engages in psychopathological schemes to try to gain further power. They are no longer even left but are off the deep end into supporting Fascist schemes beyond any comprehension"
Couldn't possibly agree more. Same with this, but even *more* so:
"Unless the people actually march peacefully in the streets by the millions there are no options."
"The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."
This is before the Woke Religion became so powerful. I'm sure they would-a included the *political* elites in the oligarchy that rules us plebes.
Me? I didn't see Trump make muchuva an effort to "drain the Swamp." And that's just one side-a the equation. The Woke Religion is, by *far,* the biggest "half" of the problem, right? Their not part-a the Swamp in DC. Nationwide. World-wide.
Probably true, M. Celia. Then again, mebbe grassroots efforts would be the best Way in any event. Hard-ta say.
And mebbe wouldn't need a *lotta* political power to start with. Seeing how influential Joe Manchin has been, and he's just one person. Just thinkin' out loud.
The TEA Party (literally Taxed Enough Already) came into existence as a grassroots movement (I was there). It was never intended to appeal only to conservatives, since it was about one thing: financial responsibility in government.
As it started to gain some steam, the media cast it as a far-right group of crazies. And of course that false characterization was readily accepted. Not just by Leftists, but also by far-right crazies, who were only too willing to swoop in and take over.
I've had a front-row seat to what happens when a grass-roots party threatens the oligarchy. It's not pretty.
My understanding of it is limited. I'm not sure how much advanced planning went into the formation of the thing. Thought it was more of a spontaneous combustion. ICBW.
If far-right crazies were allowed to swoop in and take over, then there must not-a been *enough* of a grassroots effort. IMO.
You insulting a dog they understand much more then these progressive people and fir me the problem is I’m not sure which target group they are - are they privilege are they highly educated are they even working because you don’t have to be rocket scientist to see where this is going the elites even scammed us out of our election they have been doing that for years both reps and Dems when these elites hid skid row I fear for all us we nearly there after Covid they are now hitting us with the Climate something going to give
Errant ideology is very dangerous. In Christian history it led to the murder of millions, same with totalitarian ideology. This bizarre climate ideology will lead to deaths, of mostly the poor and marginalized. Tragic.
It’s far worse than that. Although we have a few odd politicians and states who are fighting this the WEF handmaidens are now in charge and deliberately undermining America and Americans. Their aim is to create a bunch of slaves of the Davos crowd rulers. To them we are useless eaters.
I don't disagree. But, at least for a *time,* they need us useless eaters. So my hope is that their plans can be disrupted, before AI and automation really do some damage. False hope? Better 'n none.
There is no nice way of saying but Californians have to stop voting for Democrats. For decades state has been run by Democratic party on almost every level. Up to early 2000 that might have worked, but now, it is clearly not working. Cities are falling apart, homeless in every park, junkies robing stores in broad daylight with out any fear of law.
Ironic person might say, well California is becoming that what it was up to 1900, Wild West, where outlaws roam free and only small pockets of law hold out.
But in reality, no other state shows how insane woke/progressive polices can destroy a state. This wouldn't be a problem if California transplants weren't escaping in drows to other well run states and bringing their voting habits that they escaped from. I mean, are you blind, you voted for Democrats for 50 years, they in turn have ruined the state to the extent that it is becoming unlivable, and you still want to vote for same ideas?
Nothing better epitomizes decline of California as decline of San Francisco and Los Angeles. Both are looking more and more to some cities in third world where rich elite lives in gated communities while rest of the city is slum where no laws apply.
But worst is, that majority of Californians, would rather vote blue and be forced to jump over needles on streets and human excrement, than vote Republican and have clean and safe cites.
Sometime I think, that California is beyond saving. I just hope, that in case of this decline, the old saying doesn't come true "As California Goes, so Goes the Nation"
To be fair, the Progs have completely corrupted the election process. I don't believe another Republican, conservative, independent will be able to be elected in my lifetime.
Causus bellus?
Ignoramoose had to look it up.
Might wanna think again about that one.
Getting closer
"To be fair, the Progs have completely corrupted the election process."
I find that to be doubtful, but that's just me.
"I don't believe another Republican, conservative, independent will be able to be elected in my lifetime."
I'm 67, and I expect it in *my* lifetime. So I would recommend You prepare Yourself to be pleasantly surprised.
I do hope you're right about the latter, but only someone in complete denial could argue against the former.
Per usual, it's another case of *who* is in denial.
God forbid but I’m with you on that one what’s terrifying is the same Californian senators have been there for decades there is no new blood or savvy youngsters to take over so I agree we are doomed
To be blunt, these are local issues. The dysfunction in SF is an SF issue. I live in San Jose and we don't have that dysfunction because we aren't insane. But it is easy to conflate local and state issues in people's minds.
Some are shitholes and the rest are becoming shitholes Zeke don’t think any of us are immune
"Sometime I think, that California is beyond saving."
Not quite yet. We'll know that's the case when the immigrants (legal and otherwise) turn around and leave because their new home is actually WORSE than the $hithole place where they came from. It's coming.
🤣🤣🤣that’s funny!
smits...can be, for much of the US big cities
Definitely true. We seem to be on an inexorable decline
Yep, California - grew to a successful paradise under conservative Republicans, destroyed by leftist Democrats. It's really such a simple formula. Every liberal wet dream was implemented in CA and the results are there for anyone to see. Paradise lost. And the real comedy is that the most educated, the most privileged, the most entitled people who supported these policies are too stupid, blind and pig-headed to change course. It would be laughable if not so utterly sad.
Not any of those things they just major professional looters thugs who have captured California and continue to rape her infinitum
I don't think it's stupidity or pig-headedness. It's the feeling of superiority. Of being part of the royalty. The luxury of noblesse oblige.
Plenty of that - narcissists all. I’m a fifth generation CA with ancestors going back to Mendocino redwood coast/San Francisco. They were hardy Europeans and Few odd Boston folks. Seafaring, rugged - no nonsense types. Now live near Nashville. Not so great here either with a bunch of Democrat, high tech supporters locally. Nor sure the Republicans here are much better.
I agree. I was glad to see Schellenberger's recognition of that.
It’s good to be the King!!
Loved that movie. With the rest of us relegated to the role of the "piss boy."
Doesn’t seem so bad in the back of your tinted limo, locked in your gated community at your upscale restaurant.
That really is the problem, isn't it? Too many who would literally rather die than vote for anyone but a Democrat.
California is the best example I know of the "you deserve what you vote for" phenomenon.
It's what happens when people are convinced that mail in ballots are a good thing. It's coming to a state near you.
Forgive the crib Celia, but to paraphrase Joseph de Maistre, "in a democracy people get the government they deserve."
Which is why our Founders set up a republic ("if you can keep it," said Ben Franklin), trying to protect our fledgling nation from the dangers of pure democracy. The Left is disturbingly eager to get rid of those protections.
That’s accurate. They don’t even seem to want to keep it.
Yeah, *some* on the left don't wanna keep it. But gotta "say" that I haven't seen a lotta *action* on the right, either. That's just me.
No you're correct. The right engages in a great deal of criticism and useless talk that fails to get at the nitty gritty of the issues and completely ignores urgently important component like the WEF/Davos contingent who run the current leftist disaster.
The left however has lost their sanity completely and engages in psychopathological schemes to try to gain further power. They are no longer even left but are off the deep end into supporting Fascist schemes beyond any comprehension
Both sides are corrupt but in the current environment the right are easily able to look like the winners in the discussion. And it's a a very long time until we have "elections". Unless the people actually march peacefully in the streets by the millions there are no options.
"The left however has lost their sanity completely and engages in psychopathological schemes to try to gain further power. They are no longer even left but are off the deep end into supporting Fascist schemes beyond any comprehension"
Couldn't possibly agree more. Same with this, but even *more* so:
"Unless the people actually march peacefully in the streets by the millions there are no options."
I'm glad that we don't have pure democracy as a voting principle.
But I'm sorry to tell You that, according to this study, we don't have a democracy in principle either: https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B
"The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."
This is before the Woke Religion became so powerful. I'm sure they would-a included the *political* elites in the oligarchy that rules us plebes.
All these Democrats at least are all handmaidens of the World Economic Forum out to form the New world Order according to Klaus Schwab.
Sorry, but nup. Most-a the Dems probably don't know much about the New World Order *some-a* them want. Nor many of the Repubs, I'd wager.
Trump, having dealt with the government for most of his life, understood that. That was the Swamp he referenced.
True Trump alone recognized the threat from the Swamp. Not sure anyone can save what remains now.
Me? I didn't see Trump make muchuva an effort to "drain the Swamp." And that's just one side-a the equation. The Woke Religion is, by *far,* the biggest "half" of the problem, right? Their not part-a the Swamp in DC. Nationwide. World-wide.
Trump? Pfffft.
See, told you guys...jt goes el Trumpty...nice catch.
You funny, Jim. But seriously, tho. YOu don't get it. Trump *is* one-a the elites. How many billions? "Man of the people" my effin' arse!
Then you all better find someone else who will fight the deep state and the WEF kids. Quick.
I've already written off '24 myself. Faint hope. May not be around, good probability I *won't* be, but still look forward to '28.
I'd love to vote for Ron DeSantis for president.
Corruption, everywhere you look.
Pretty much. Still, I hope a new political party is born that is different. Who knows?
Unfortunately, as long as the Leftists control the media, the chances of such a party coming into existence are minimal.
Probably true, M. Celia. Then again, mebbe grassroots efforts would be the best Way in any event. Hard-ta say.
And mebbe wouldn't need a *lotta* political power to start with. Seeing how influential Joe Manchin has been, and he's just one person. Just thinkin' out loud.
The TEA Party (literally Taxed Enough Already) came into existence as a grassroots movement (I was there). It was never intended to appeal only to conservatives, since it was about one thing: financial responsibility in government.
As it started to gain some steam, the media cast it as a far-right group of crazies. And of course that false characterization was readily accepted. Not just by Leftists, but also by far-right crazies, who were only too willing to swoop in and take over.
I've had a front-row seat to what happens when a grass-roots party threatens the oligarchy. It's not pretty.
My understanding of it is limited. I'm not sure how much advanced planning went into the formation of the thing. Thought it was more of a spontaneous combustion. ICBW.
If far-right crazies were allowed to swoop in and take over, then there must not-a been *enough* of a grassroots effort. IMO.
Right on....
...if not better than they deserve...
Good and hard
You insulting a dog they understand much more then these progressive people and fir me the problem is I’m not sure which target group they are - are they privilege are they highly educated are they even working because you don’t have to be rocket scientist to see where this is going the elites even scammed us out of our election they have been doing that for years both reps and Dems when these elites hid skid row I fear for all us we nearly there after Covid they are now hitting us with the Climate something going to give
Pops...try lecturing your cat...talk about "dead end" and a looooong way to go.
Errant ideology is very dangerous. In Christian history it led to the murder of millions, same with totalitarian ideology. This bizarre climate ideology will lead to deaths, of mostly the poor and marginalized. Tragic.
Alejandra...funny that San Di does not get much attention...wonders me.
It’s far worse than that. Although we have a few odd politicians and states who are fighting this the WEF handmaidens are now in charge and deliberately undermining America and Americans. Their aim is to create a bunch of slaves of the Davos crowd rulers. To them we are useless eaters.
clownish
Hmmmph.
I don't disagree. But, at least for a *time,* they need us useless eaters. So my hope is that their plans can be disrupted, before AI and automation really do some damage. False hope? Better 'n none.