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Evans W's avatar

And to think that in California you can't open or conceal carry. Now THAT'S a crime.

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JoAnne's avatar

Wrong! You can open carry. There is some jerk in Alameda county that has this licenses. He pulls out his gun and puts it on the table in restaurants, coffee shops, etc. When the police arrive, he starts to cry about harassment. This area sees real crime and there is real danger, this kind of showboating may not end well for him. The ability to carry a gun should also carry responsibility and his asinine attitude should deprive him of the right to carry a gun.

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Timmy Taes's avatar

JoAnne: It's still illegal to carry a gun within 100 yards of a school. My house is within 100 yards of a school. So.......

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JoAnne's avatar

Absolutely right. School areas have special rules. Curious if you can smoke a cigarette in your yard?

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Timmy Taes's avatar

JoAnne: I don't smoke but probably not. LOL! I do yell at the school on occasion. There are two kids. We call one "The Screamer" and one "The Yeller". The Screamer is a young girl and man, she can scream and does it often.

The Yeller is a boy. He likes to be the boss of the playground. "Gimme that!"

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Dean R.'s avatar

A gun owner does carry responsibility, and if they don't, they should not be a gun owner. Period. ( I am a gun owner)

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Art's avatar

And I bet he doesn’t get robbed by thugs, nor do the other patrons when he is in attendance.

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JoAnne's avatar

If my children walked into a party or establishment in the Bay Area and someone took out a gun, I would want them to get out as fast as they could. A gun doesn’t always imply safety, unless in the hands of an identified police officer. Knowing whether a person has good and bad intents is not always easy or quickly determined.

When I grew up, there were rifles in cars & trucks during deer hunting and it was so accepted that it was unremarkable. For my children that time is gone…maybe in other places that time remains.

In California, there are many gun laws and we do not need more. What we need is enforcement of the multiple gun laws on the book.Two children under the age of 7 were killed when a criminal opened fire across a freeway. Price did not bring the full power of the gun laws against either shooter. In another community in Alameda county, there was a robbery at gunpoint and a robbery by assault. Both incidents involved the same criminal. The robber still had an ankle monitor on and was on parole. Price failed to bring additional charges ie violation of parole, felon possessing a gun, etc. due to the reason that incarcerating young black men occurs to often. Not new gun laws, definitely a new DA for Alameda.

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Evans W's avatar

Just like with the first amendment, there’s always people that will behave somewhat on the fridge. That said, my guess is he doesn’t get harassed by criminals very often being that he’s open carrying. As long as he’s not twinning it if you want simply having it in a public setting shouldn’t be that concerning. Here in the south people open carry all the time and also set their firearms on a restaurant table or counter while they’re eating. It doesn’t seem to bother anyone including the police. Also, if private businesses don’t wish to allow patrons carry firearms into their establishment all they have to do is post to sign stating that. This allows them to have a person removed from the premises if they armed. We have plenty of businesses with signs like this posted in our community. To my knowledge it’s never been an issue.

I mean, the alternative would be what exactly?

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JoAnne's avatar

There is a limit on what can be said and consequences for what is said, printed, posted. Some of the consequences like losing a job are not part of the legal system but part of the social re-enforcement for accepted behavior.

In CA, there appears to be an extraordinary number of fringe behavior, but not always without repercussions. In a time and place where business owners feel forced to protect themselves and their livelihood. The deliberately provocative behavior of displaying a weapon without being endangered could be resolved quickly.

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Mike R.'s avatar

A thing to consider is that during the riots (Ms. Harris) the DNC took the opportunity to conflate "crime" with "revolution". Things don't make sense because they're not supposed to. Chaos serves tyranny. It is, simply put, the Hitler/Maoist/Stalinist tactic (megalomaniac narcissism/hubris) employing (Marxist/DEI/"woke"/Antifa/ BLM/etc.) ideological utopianism to dismantle public institutions. This was exactly the totalitarianism that took us into WWII and the Nuclear Age.---Mr. Scott's arrest and criminalization for, as a free citizen, confronting actual criminals is object lesson fascism. You are not supposed to feel safe in home or community. Remember the fate of the subway rider who stopped an insane man who was threatening fellow passengers? How about the man who openly raped a woman on a subway and everyone was afraid to interfere? ("Avoid eye contact" and tremble. The freedom and agency of the American citizen is under direct assault and, we know who is responsible.

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Evans W's avatar

They’re quite a few things in your statement that I could argue especially concerning speech. That said, I’m glad I’m living in the south and not in California.

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Timmy Taes's avatar

Evans W: My folks lived in Savannah, GA for 20 years. When I'd visit the chiggers ate me alive. My Dad would say, "If it wasn't for the chiggers, we couldn't afford to live here."

I'll stay in California.

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