Set the precedence for what? Assaulting the Capitol, assaulting a federal building in general, or political violence in general? Federal or state government targets? How should we quantify each as a large or small tear in the social fabric of society? How should we quantify “more violent historically”? Based on what? Starting when? If we…
Set the precedence for what? Assaulting the Capitol, assaulting a federal building in general, or political violence in general? Federal or state government targets? How should we quantify each as a large or small tear in the social fabric of society? How should we quantify “more violent historically”? Based on what? Starting when? If we count the attack on the US State Dept building in ‘75 by the Weather Underground then the precedence for subversion by attack on a federal government institution was set by the left. In this country, which group was demanding fealty in the form of raised fists from people just minding their own business driving through cities under the threat of violence? The left. One person died on J6, and another few were hospitalized. One person died in Charlottesville. Over 2 dozen died during the riots. Dozens, perhaps hundreds died as a result of riots and unrest in the mid sixties to early seventies. So again, how are we quantifying this “more violent” and “precedence setting” claim? Loss of life? Left. Dollar amount in damage? Left. First to attack the federal government? Left. First to have the government and government-funded institutions support civil unrest? The left. So, I hear you, but I couldn’t possibly disagree more. If you’re comparing AntiFa to the idiots in Charlottesville, the loss of life, reckless disregard for law and property, and the forceful takeover of public spaces, then AntiFa wins by an order of magnitude. If you’re comparing them to the Gravy Seals on J6, then even more so. So really, either define how you’re quantifying your claims of “more violent” and “set the precedence” or you’re just another Radley Balko.
I wasn't actually thinking of antifa at all, but yes, point taken - political violence stretches waaaaay back in time. Especially in the eternal Gazan vs Israeli ongoing war (all of them) since long before we called them Gazans or Israelis. I wasn't comparing antifa to Charlottesville, I was comparing the modern Hamas cheerleaders on college campuses.
Set the precedence for what? Assaulting the Capitol, assaulting a federal building in general, or political violence in general? Federal or state government targets? How should we quantify each as a large or small tear in the social fabric of society? How should we quantify “more violent historically”? Based on what? Starting when? If we count the attack on the US State Dept building in ‘75 by the Weather Underground then the precedence for subversion by attack on a federal government institution was set by the left. In this country, which group was demanding fealty in the form of raised fists from people just minding their own business driving through cities under the threat of violence? The left. One person died on J6, and another few were hospitalized. One person died in Charlottesville. Over 2 dozen died during the riots. Dozens, perhaps hundreds died as a result of riots and unrest in the mid sixties to early seventies. So again, how are we quantifying this “more violent” and “precedence setting” claim? Loss of life? Left. Dollar amount in damage? Left. First to attack the federal government? Left. First to have the government and government-funded institutions support civil unrest? The left. So, I hear you, but I couldn’t possibly disagree more. If you’re comparing AntiFa to the idiots in Charlottesville, the loss of life, reckless disregard for law and property, and the forceful takeover of public spaces, then AntiFa wins by an order of magnitude. If you’re comparing them to the Gravy Seals on J6, then even more so. So really, either define how you’re quantifying your claims of “more violent” and “set the precedence” or you’re just another Radley Balko.
I wasn't actually thinking of antifa at all, but yes, point taken - political violence stretches waaaaay back in time. Especially in the eternal Gazan vs Israeli ongoing war (all of them) since long before we called them Gazans or Israelis. I wasn't comparing antifa to Charlottesville, I was comparing the modern Hamas cheerleaders on college campuses.