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Madjack's avatar

Western civilization is collapsing. It had a good run. Welcome to the new dark ages. We will be colder, hotter, and darker. We cannot discuss certain topics. We are vilified for our beliefs or lineage. Very sad.

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Dave's avatar

2a is the only thing between us and the collapse you're talking about. I hope you can see this.

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Snarling Fifi's avatar

About the time our original 13 states adopted their new constitution, in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh, had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years prior:

"A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government. A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is followed by a dictatorship....The average age of the worlds greatest civilizations, from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years. During those 200 years, these nations progressed through the following sequence:

1. From bondage to spiritual faith;

2. From spiritual faith to great courage;

3. From courage to liberty;

4. From liberty to abundance;

5. From abundance to complacency;

6. From complacency to apathy;

7. From apathy to dependence;

8. From dependence back into bondage "

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Esther's avatar

Sigh.

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cabystander's avatar

Someone said (more or less) that on the headstone of the late, great USA will be engraved: "Piety birthed Prosperity; the daughter buried the mother."

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Snarling Fifi's avatar

That makes my heart hurt.

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jt's avatar

Nice. TYTY, M. Fifi...

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Terence G Gain's avatar

Your pessimism is warranted, but the pendulum is swinging back and as Yogi might say тАЬthe future has not yet arrivedтАЭ.

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vernon's avatar

Agreed. I have a lot of hope for what's coming. It might be tough, but once we get through it it will be worth it.

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BillLawrenceOnline's avatar

It's a metamorphous not a collapse. What is collapsing is the paradigm built on lies that's been in place for 60 years.

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