Thanks for giving them this platform. The increase in crimes and violence in this country against Jews has gone mostly ignored by this administration because no one wants to talk about WHO are the perpetrators of this violence. Woke politics means we can’t discuss it, so it goes ignored.
Thanks for giving them this platform. The increase in crimes and violence in this country against Jews has gone mostly ignored by this administration because no one wants to talk about WHO are the perpetrators of this violence. Woke politics means we can’t discuss it, so it goes ignored.
In NYS, blacks make up <16% of the population and about 45% of all hate crime complaints. Jews are estimated at 11% of the population in NYS, but anti-Jewish bias makes up 43% of complaints. When it comes to actual arrests, blacks account for 37% of anti-Jewish crimes.
I think we can conclude that Jews are disproportionate victims of bias attacks and blacks are disproportionate offenders of these attacks. At the same time, we can recognize that most Jews will not be attacked and most blacks are not attackers.
Exactly one person made that claim in a completely different thread. Isn't it kind of suspicious you seem intent on "debunking" that in a completely different discussion where nobody even brought that up?
What I am claiming is that blacks commit all crimes, including hate crimes, at a rate far higher than their share of the overall population. Are you disagreeing with that? Yes or no?
Nope. Was part of the entire article thread. Therefore, counts. That's just one of several I could have pulled. Doesn't matter. One is all I needed. ;)
No, not disagreeing with that. But it's irrelevant. So....good luck with whatever is you're trying to do.
So, did you ""get me" with me "admitting violent black pathology is real"...or is it because of poverty, etc?
Did it ever occur to you that comments are arranged from top to bottom? And that maybe a comment from a different part of the conversation isn't going to be visible to people when you comment on a higher part of the thread? Maybe the principle that you should reply to people based on what they actually said rather than what somebody else said applies?
Also it's a logical non sequitur. There can simultaneously be a violent black pathology and that pathology may have its roots in violence and poverty.
One is genetic/intrinsic. The other is systemic/extrinsic.
So...I guess you're going with both.
Wait....the "roots" are in violence and poverty? Yes, their violence, right? Begetting their poverty..so I guess we're right back genetic/intrinsic....which were you always were ;)
The reality on the ground in New York City, Newark, and a few other urban districts that are heavily populated with Black Americans, Orthodox Jews and Asians is that gangs of mostly young black males are routinely assaulting Orthodox Jews and Asians. And by "assault" I mean physically attacking them, out of the blue, for no reason other than their appearance and the fact that the blacks outnumber them. This disgusting behavior is seemingly ignored if not routinely excused by the mainstream news media, who are much more eager to report the rare instances of white males victimizing blacks. These statements are based on years of observation and countless reports, police and FBI statistics, video footage, and personal experience. Hand waving and bland dismissals of the problem are most unhelpful.
Janelle Wong, the source you are quoting, is a strongly left wing academic from Yale and USC, who focuses on systemic racism. She pinned a tweet on her Twitter page from her article in the Chronicle:
"Actually, Race-Conscious Admissions Are Good for Asian-Americans"
This detestable piece of twisted logic purports to prove that keeping Asians out of competitive universities is good for Asians.
Hyperlinks to other studies and comments from academics in the article cooroborate the data. Black Americans do not commit the " most" or "majority" of hate crimes. I know you wish that were true, but it's not. Sorry.
In NYS, blacks make up <16% of the population and about 45% of all hate crime complaints. Jews are estimated at 18% of the population in NYS, but anti-Jewish bias makes up 43% of complaints. When it comes to actual arrests, blacks account for 37% of anti-Jewish crimes.
If you are trying to point out that black hate crime against Jews is disproportionate as compared to the number of black people in the total population, this logic is beyond the comprof program. It is programmed strictly for equity and equitable outcomes.
Who are the perps in USA? I think I know that in Europe today it’s mostly Muslim immigrants. But the mass shootings here seem to have been carried out by whites.
If you use the definition (by violence org) of 4 or more people shot or wounded in a single event Chicago had 12 % of ALL mass shootings for 2022. Chicago makes up .09% of US population . Out of these Chicago shooting 90% was a Black shooter who usually shot other Blacks
source US census and Heyjackass chicago crime data
By the legal definition of mass shooting, the wide majority are gang related and about half of the violence happens between black Americans, who are roughly 500% overrepresented in USA violent crime.
Saying that out loud can get you branded as a racist, so be careful with Truth that Offends.
But I think what you're referring to as "mass shootings" are the terrorist style senseless shootings of peaceful public places. This should be referred to as terrorism because that's the entire purpose of it, and those incidents follow the general racial makeup of the country more closely.
Most of the anti-Semitic violence in the US is perpetrated by blacks though the article did go back a quarter of a century to try and frame it as white supremacy.
As for your false belief most mass shootings in the US are being carried out by whites, it is because the progressive press media buries most mass shootings by non-whites to create a false narrative to aid in creating a mass surveillance state.
Comprof is back, sigh, citing an article about who gets__arrested___. I guess he has missed out on the news that DAs have become very selective about prosecutions and police in response regarding arrests.
There's a reason that homicides are the gold standard when examining crime rates: some percentage of other criminal activity goes unreported. In a place like SF shoplifting for example may not be called in on a regular basis because reporting it to the police is pointless.
On the other hand it is much tougher to get rid of a body.
Again, blacks are only 12% of the population. Allow me to explain:
Let's say that violent crime is at crisis levels in the black population. How could you tell? Let's say that somebody proposes "If blacks make up most of the homicide offenders and victims in the country then we can conclude that black on black crime is at crisis levels."
But again blacks are a tiny minority of the country. That standard pretty much guarantees that no matter how many black bodies hit the floor in inner city ghettoes that it can never be recognized as a "crisis".
On the other hand what happens if you examine the intergenerational crime rate in poor black neighborhoods? You see that the per capita homicide rate there is the highest it's been (tied for first place with 1992) in modern recorded American history across the country as a whole. In specific places like Chicago it is worse now than it has ever been since at least 1960.
And of course if you look at the violent crime rate relative to the black percentage of the overall population the relative rate is much, much higher than for whites and Asians.
Blacks make up 12% of the population. They make up at least 50% of all homicide offenders. That is insane. Given that it should not be surprising that a lot of people are justifiably concerned and preoccupied with black criminal offenders.
As for the "majority" of that argument, if you want to fight with somebody over that go take it up with Steven N. Nobody here made that claim. In addition I feel that threshold is useless when it comes to examining black criminality for the reasons I posted above.
Considering the overwhelming majority of those hommicides are "inner city" and "black on black" crime. Who are these "lot of people" that are rightfully afraid?
I dream of world in which one day "white criminality" will be as interesting as "black criminality."
Or, maybe, there are pockets of concentrated poverty and dysfunction inside of major cities that are breeding grounds for broken family and subsequently crime.
Regardless of the explanation the phenomenon is genuine. The first step is just to acknowledge reality.
My guess is that it is multivariate. Some is probably due to racist practices that have since vanished but who lasting after effects have proven to be durable. Some is ongoing cultural dysfunction such as a high incidence of single parent families and a culture that glorifies criminal activity and belittles education.
-mass shootings aren’t the every day violence and btw there have been plenty of black and Muslim mass incidents here - NJ? But the media amps up the white supremacist incidents and downplays the black and Muslim because they are part of the woke-protected. BLM aligns with the Palestinians because they see them as non-white and see Jews as white. You have entirely made my point for me - thank you.
of course you would say that. I am olive skinned - as though that matters AT ALL. my hair is naturally black but i dye it lighter brown. You keep making my points for me. thanks so much.
Of course I would say that. I have vision. No. When you're in public, people see a "white woman." White women don't have naturally black hair? I'll have run that past my wife.
What point exactly are you trying to make, Brammy? :)
This is just being deliberately obtuse. The fact that you are seemingly unable to differentiate ethnicity doesn't imply anything about the rest of the population.
boy are you dim. I hate to break it to you - but i HAVE been a recipient of antisemitism. I didn't interview the perp to ask if he thought I should change how i look to prevent a repeat performance, but apparently you DO think Jews should change how they look and dress so as not to be a victim.
Thank you - I was thinking the same. This article focuses on white supremacists but it’s open season on “visible” Jews in NY to a much higher degree, every single day. We just can’t talk about it because the perpetrators are seen as victims and therefore sacrosanct. And Jews are seen as higher in the power hierarchy and therefore can’t be victims. I thought this article might bring that up before the end, and even then barely mentioned it, so I guess woke wins in the end.
Asians are in the same position--too high in the power hierarchy. When there was a spate of anti-Asian hate crimes a few years ago, the media tried to spin it as White Supremacy on the rise, but it turned out that the perpetrators were black, so the story quietly went away.
"Violence against Asian Americans is in fact a diverse and majority-minority affair, with the 2019 Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) report showing that 27.5 percent of violent criminals targeting an Asian victim are black and only 24.1 percent are white; my own analysis of a set of more than 100 recent high-profile cases reaches similar conclusions."
In other words blacks, despite making up only 12% of the national population, somehow commit hate crimes against Asians at a higher rate than the white majority.
Why aren't we talking about rate? I would say that a higher rate of black on Asian violence may be indicative of significant intra-racial animus between blacks and Asians.
Cause that's irrelevant when one makes the claim that "most" or the "majority" of anti-Semitic crimes are committed by black people.
Nah. There's not a significant intra-racial animus. Everyone went a bit crazy during Covid....even some *gasp* white people got in on it, too! Shocking I know Slaw, but it happened. But it's really died down now.
I know, black folks just have intra-racial animus against everyone, don't they?
Many of the perps belong to known officially-designated Black Supremacist and Black Terrorist Hate Groups, which have been unfortunately growing. These groups Preach Hate and encourage violence against Jews and Asians at their services. Nick Cannon, Kyrie Irving and Kanye are part of this. Names of some of the groups: Black Hebrew Israelites, Nation of Islam, Nuwaubian Nation of Moors, New Black Panther Party.
Who precisely made the claim that blacks commit most anti-Semitic hate crimes? You did, and it's a transparent attempt at deflection away from the fact that blacks commit hate crimes at a rate far higher than whites.
Again: if the incidence of hate crimes is an indication of underlying racism in an ethnic group then blacks are more racist than whites. End of story.
What's more in terms of simple criminality there has been no substantial reduction in violent crime rates post-Covid. By all appearances the US has entered into a new normal of chronically high crime rates.
Blacks make up 25% of the population in NYC and 12% of the country as a whole. At a national level given their small percentage of the population it would be surprising if they made up a majority of hate crime offenders.
Stop it? Why should I allow you to promote fraudulent claims unopposed? "Most" and "majority" is simply factually incorrect.
The only one exhibiting bias and misleading commentary is you. And no emoji changes that.
But please provide your data/info of all the perps that are not arrested/prosecuted, although you are quite certain they are "the ones" commiting the "most" or "majority."
I knew this thread would go down this road very quickly. Spicy!
What exactly are you arguing here? The source that YOU cited clearly indicates that blacks commit hate crimes at a level higher than their relative share of the overall population.
Yep. Sure did cite it. But were not talking proportionality, are we? Were not talking about "relative share," are we?
Funny how some are so eager to look at proportionality when it suits their purpose.
"Violence in this country against Jews has gone mostly ignored by this administration because no one wans to talk about WHO are the perpetrators of this violence. Woke politics means we can't discuss it." - BrammyMIA
"Media tried to spin it as White Supremacy on this rise, but it turned out the perpetrators were black, so the stories quietly went away." - Celia M
"Most of the anti-Semitic violence in the U.S. is perpetrated by blacks." - Steven N.
So, my argument is EXCEPTIONALLY clear. Black people do not commint the "most" nor the "majority" of anti-Semitic or anti-Asian hate crimes.
Not that difficult to understand. But I get it. It's time for whites (Christians and Jews) and Asians to come together and fight the real enemy ;)
I'm talking about relative share so I have no idea what you're talking about.
Blacks are only about 12% of the overall population but commit about 50% of all homicides in the US. I assume that since "half" doesn't qualify as "most" that's not a problem in your book?
And again, you are raising a straw man here. Nobody here was arguing that blacks commit most hate crimes against Jews or Asian Americans until you raised that.
The problem is that about 60% of the country is white and 12% black. Whites are committing fewer shootings than would be expected given their share of the population and blacks are committing more.
Blacks make up 12% of the population and at least 50% of all homicide offenders (and victims). How is it not about race?
As for mass shootings, falling victim to one is lottery odds. At most 100-200 Americans will perish in a mass shooting in a given year. On the other hand the chances of being killed by firearm violence if you are poor, black, male and young is far higher.
Thanks for giving them this platform. The increase in crimes and violence in this country against Jews has gone mostly ignored by this administration because no one wants to talk about WHO are the perpetrators of this violence. Woke politics means we can’t discuss it, so it goes ignored.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/nypd-33-percent-arrested-for-antisemitic-crimes-in-2019-were-black-60-percent-white-612779/amp
I'm not sure what you're trying to say, if anything, but here is the data for NY state - https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/stats/reports-analysis/hate-crimes.page
In NYS, blacks make up <16% of the population and about 45% of all hate crime complaints. Jews are estimated at 11% of the population in NYS, but anti-Jewish bias makes up 43% of complaints. When it comes to actual arrests, blacks account for 37% of anti-Jewish crimes.
I think we can conclude that Jews are disproportionate victims of bias attacks and blacks are disproportionate offenders of these attacks. At the same time, we can recognize that most Jews will not be attacked and most blacks are not attackers.
What a refreshing display of statistical analysis and linear thought.
And if they are..and are in NYC, the enforcement system just lets them go and not prosecuted.
Yeah, yeah...black folks just getting let out of jail left and right.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/nypd-33-percent-arrested-for-antisemitic-crimes-in-2019-were-black-60-percent-white-612779/amp
Again, blacks commit all crimes (including hate crimes) at a rate higher than their share of the general population.
Again, irrelevant to "most" or "majority" re: hate crimes.
What aren't you understanding?
Exactly one person made that claim in a completely different thread. Isn't it kind of suspicious you seem intent on "debunking" that in a completely different discussion where nobody even brought that up?
What I am claiming is that blacks commit all crimes, including hate crimes, at a rate far higher than their share of the overall population. Are you disagreeing with that? Yes or no?
Nope. Was part of the entire article thread. Therefore, counts. That's just one of several I could have pulled. Doesn't matter. One is all I needed. ;)
No, not disagreeing with that. But it's irrelevant. So....good luck with whatever is you're trying to do.
So, did you ""get me" with me "admitting violent black pathology is real"...or is it because of poverty, etc?
Make up your mind, Slaw.
Did it ever occur to you that comments are arranged from top to bottom? And that maybe a comment from a different part of the conversation isn't going to be visible to people when you comment on a higher part of the thread? Maybe the principle that you should reply to people based on what they actually said rather than what somebody else said applies?
Also it's a logical non sequitur. There can simultaneously be a violent black pathology and that pathology may have its roots in violence and poverty.
No, Slaw.
One is genetic/intrinsic. The other is systemic/extrinsic.
So...I guess you're going with both.
Wait....the "roots" are in violence and poverty? Yes, their violence, right? Begetting their poverty..so I guess we're right back genetic/intrinsic....which were you always were ;)
That's your definition. When somebody speaks of "cultural pathologies" I am skeptical that they believe that there is a genetic element.
Most perps are NOT arrested - thanks.
And blacks are about 13% of the population. That being said I am very dubious of stats these days.
Which is why they don't commit the majority of anti-Semitic hate crimes.
The reality on the ground in New York City, Newark, and a few other urban districts that are heavily populated with Black Americans, Orthodox Jews and Asians is that gangs of mostly young black males are routinely assaulting Orthodox Jews and Asians. And by "assault" I mean physically attacking them, out of the blue, for no reason other than their appearance and the fact that the blacks outnumber them. This disgusting behavior is seemingly ignored if not routinely excused by the mainstream news media, who are much more eager to report the rare instances of white males victimizing blacks. These statements are based on years of observation and countless reports, police and FBI statistics, video footage, and personal experience. Hand waving and bland dismissals of the problem are most unhelpful.
The reality on the ground, is this:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270821
I get it. It's time whites (Chrisrians & Jews) and Asians to work together to fight the real enemy.
Janelle Wong, the source you are quoting, is a strongly left wing academic from Yale and USC, who focuses on systemic racism. She pinned a tweet on her Twitter page from her article in the Chronicle:
"Actually, Race-Conscious Admissions Are Good for Asian-Americans"
This detestable piece of twisted logic purports to prove that keeping Asians out of competitive universities is good for Asians.
Nice try, ComProf2.0 but no cigar.
Hyperlinks to other studies and comments from academics in the article cooroborate the data. Black Americans do not commit the " most" or "majority" of hate crimes. I know you wish that were true, but it's not. Sorry.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270821
Nice try.
Per Current Resident's post:
https://www.nyc.gov/site/nypd/stats/reports-analysis/hate-crimes.page
In NYS, blacks make up <16% of the population and about 45% of all hate crime complaints. Jews are estimated at 18% of the population in NYS, but anti-Jewish bias makes up 43% of complaints. When it comes to actual arrests, blacks account for 37% of anti-Jewish crimes.
If you are trying to point out that black hate crime against Jews is disproportionate as compared to the number of black people in the total population, this logic is beyond the comprof program. It is programmed strictly for equity and equitable outcomes.
Thanks for the compliment; I do try hard!
And I stand by my statements.
😴
Aww....that was easy.
😴
Lol. Oh...well, let's go with 100% not "most" then ok?
I wondered how long it would take before "the blacks" were part of the discussion. This thread is spicy!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/nypd-33-percent-arrested-for-antisemitic-crimes-in-2019-were-black-60-percent-white-612779/amp
Thanks ;)
Again, blacks commit all crimes (including hate crimes) at a rate higher than their share of the general population.
Who are the perps in USA? I think I know that in Europe today it’s mostly Muslim immigrants. But the mass shootings here seem to have been carried out by whites.
If you use the definition (by violence org) of 4 or more people shot or wounded in a single event Chicago had 12 % of ALL mass shootings for 2022. Chicago makes up .09% of US population . Out of these Chicago shooting 90% was a Black shooter who usually shot other Blacks
source US census and Heyjackass chicago crime data
Unfortunately, there seems to be no shortage of anti-Semites on either the right or the left, or among both blacks and whites.
By the legal definition of mass shooting, the wide majority are gang related and about half of the violence happens between black Americans, who are roughly 500% overrepresented in USA violent crime.
Saying that out loud can get you branded as a racist, so be careful with Truth that Offends.
But I think what you're referring to as "mass shootings" are the terrorist style senseless shootings of peaceful public places. This should be referred to as terrorism because that's the entire purpose of it, and those incidents follow the general racial makeup of the country more closely.
Most of the anti-Semitic violence in the US is perpetrated by blacks though the article did go back a quarter of a century to try and frame it as white supremacy.
As for your false belief most mass shootings in the US are being carried out by whites, it is because the progressive press media buries most mass shootings by non-whites to create a false narrative to aid in creating a mass surveillance state.
Comprof is back, sigh, citing an article about who gets__arrested___. I guess he has missed out on the news that DAs have become very selective about prosecutions and police in response regarding arrests.
I guess I missed your data on that. Sigh.
Yep. Black folks commit the most hate crimes against Jews in America.
It's time for Asians, whites (Chrisians & Jews) to come together against the true enemy.
There's a reason that homicides are the gold standard when examining crime rates: some percentage of other criminal activity goes unreported. In a place like SF shoplifting for example may not be called in on a regular basis because reporting it to the police is pointless.
On the other hand it is much tougher to get rid of a body.
Oh...so now we've moved to shoplifiting.
Do rate, proportionality, etc. have any bearing on "the most" or "majority?"
Yes or no?
Again, blacks are only 12% of the population. Allow me to explain:
Let's say that violent crime is at crisis levels in the black population. How could you tell? Let's say that somebody proposes "If blacks make up most of the homicide offenders and victims in the country then we can conclude that black on black crime is at crisis levels."
But again blacks are a tiny minority of the country. That standard pretty much guarantees that no matter how many black bodies hit the floor in inner city ghettoes that it can never be recognized as a "crisis".
On the other hand what happens if you examine the intergenerational crime rate in poor black neighborhoods? You see that the per capita homicide rate there is the highest it's been (tied for first place with 1992) in modern recorded American history across the country as a whole. In specific places like Chicago it is worse now than it has ever been since at least 1960.
And of course if you look at the violent crime rate relative to the black percentage of the overall population the relative rate is much, much higher than for whites and Asians.
Well, for such a tiny minority, they sure do get blamed for the majority of problems in America. Lol.
Let me explain: do relative rates, proportionality, etc. have any relevance to the quantitaive claim "the most" or "majority."
Yes or no?
Blacks make up 12% of the population. They make up at least 50% of all homicide offenders. That is insane. Given that it should not be surprising that a lot of people are justifiably concerned and preoccupied with black criminal offenders.
As for the "majority" of that argument, if you want to fight with somebody over that go take it up with Steven N. Nobody here made that claim. In addition I feel that threshold is useless when it comes to examining black criminality for the reasons I posted above.
Considering the overwhelming majority of those hommicides are "inner city" and "black on black" crime. Who are these "lot of people" that are rightfully afraid?
I dream of world in which one day "white criminality" will be as interesting as "black criminality."
He's also ignoring the fact that his own statistics show that blacks commit antisemitic crimes at more than twice their percentage of the population.
But were not talking about proportionality, are we ;)
We're talking about your claim of who does the "most" or "majority"
I knew this thread would go down this road quickly. Spicy!
Per capita. Yep. Sorry to hurt your radical militant leftest feelings.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/nypd-33-percent-arrested-for-antisemitic-crimes-in-2019-were-black-60-percent-white-612779/amp
You don’t understand math, statistics or crime and how to look at data very well do you?
Again, blacks make up only 16% of the population in NYS.
Again, irrelevant. What aren't you understanding?
That blacks commit crimes (including hate crimes) at a disproportionately high rate? That seems crystal clear to me.
I know. Violent animals.
Or, maybe, there are pockets of concentrated poverty and dysfunction inside of major cities that are breeding grounds for broken family and subsequently crime.
Regardless of the explanation the phenomenon is genuine. The first step is just to acknowledge reality.
And what is the cause of all that poverty, broken family, dysfunction?
My guess is that it is multivariate. Some is probably due to racist practices that have since vanished but who lasting after effects have proven to be durable. Some is ongoing cultural dysfunction such as a high incidence of single parent families and a culture that glorifies criminal activity and belittles education.
-mass shootings aren’t the every day violence and btw there have been plenty of black and Muslim mass incidents here - NJ? But the media amps up the white supremacist incidents and downplays the black and Muslim because they are part of the woke-protected. BLM aligns with the Palestinians because they see them as non-white and see Jews as white. You have entirely made my point for me - thank you.
You look white in your picture.
of course you would say that. I am olive skinned - as though that matters AT ALL. my hair is naturally black but i dye it lighter brown. You keep making my points for me. thanks so much.
Of course I would say that. I have vision. No. When you're in public, people see a "white woman." White women don't have naturally black hair? I'll have run that past my wife.
What point exactly are you trying to make, Brammy? :)
this is my last reply to an obvious troll.. When i'm in public, people see a JEWISH WOMAN. period. Run THAT past your wife. BYE troll.
No. Unless you're in Orthodox dress, they would have no idea. Sorry.
Yeah, if I were you, I'd stop too.
This is just being deliberately obtuse. The fact that you are seemingly unable to differentiate ethnicity doesn't imply anything about the rest of the population.
boy are you dim. I hate to break it to you - but i HAVE been a recipient of antisemitism. I didn't interview the perp to ask if he thought I should change how i look to prevent a repeat performance, but apparently you DO think Jews should change how they look and dress so as not to be a victim.
Girl, it does not think. It trolls.
Disproportionately, antisemitic violence against Jews is perpetrated by blacks, especially in New York and New Jersey.
And in California, the great majority of attacks on Asians, most of them elderly, are committed by blacks.
Thank you - I was thinking the same. This article focuses on white supremacists but it’s open season on “visible” Jews in NY to a much higher degree, every single day. We just can’t talk about it because the perpetrators are seen as victims and therefore sacrosanct. And Jews are seen as higher in the power hierarchy and therefore can’t be victims. I thought this article might bring that up before the end, and even then barely mentioned it, so I guess woke wins in the end.
Asians are in the same position--too high in the power hierarchy. When there was a spate of anti-Asian hate crimes a few years ago, the media tried to spin it as White Supremacy on the rise, but it turned out that the perpetrators were black, so the story quietly went away.
I agree. It is ongoing though.
Thanks for bringing this up. I wrote about how both Asians and Jews were being attacked and ignored by the left, for Tablet:
https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/double-crossed
Hmmm...I wonder if there's any data on this.
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/19llMUCDHX-hLKru-cnDCq0BirlpNgF07W3f-q0J0ko4/mobilebasic
https://www.commentary.org/articles/wilfred-reilly/crime-against-asians-isnt-due-to-white-supremacy/
"Violence against Asian Americans is in fact a diverse and majority-minority affair, with the 2019 Bureau of Justice Statistics (BJS) report showing that 27.5 percent of violent criminals targeting an Asian victim are black and only 24.1 percent are white; my own analysis of a set of more than 100 recent high-profile cases reaches similar conclusions."
In other words blacks, despite making up only 12% of the national population, somehow commit hate crimes against Asians at a higher rate than the white majority.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1270821
How is this relevant to what I just posted?
Again, blacks commit hate crimes against Asians at a rate that is far higher than their relative share of the population.
Fascinating, really. Not talking about "rate," are we?
https://docs.google.com/document/u/0/d/19llMUCDHX-hLKru-cnDCq0BirlpNgF07W3f-q0J0ko4/mobilebasic
Fight the real enemy ;)
Why aren't we talking about rate? I would say that a higher rate of black on Asian violence may be indicative of significant intra-racial animus between blacks and Asians.
Cause that's irrelevant when one makes the claim that "most" or the "majority" of anti-Semitic crimes are committed by black people.
Nah. There's not a significant intra-racial animus. Everyone went a bit crazy during Covid....even some *gasp* white people got in on it, too! Shocking I know Slaw, but it happened. But it's really died down now.
I know, black folks just have intra-racial animus against everyone, don't they?
Not all blacks but the membership numbers in black nationalist hate groups has been growing recently, major growth
https://www.wweek.com/news/2018/01/24/a-national-watchdog-says-three-of-four-hate-groups-in-portland-are-black-how-is-that-possible/
Many of the perps belong to known officially-designated Black Supremacist and Black Terrorist Hate Groups, which have been unfortunately growing. These groups Preach Hate and encourage violence against Jews and Asians at their services. Nick Cannon, Kyrie Irving and Kanye are part of this. Names of some of the groups: Black Hebrew Israelites, Nation of Islam, Nuwaubian Nation of Moors, New Black Panther Party.
https://unherd.com/thepost/the-dangerous-rise-of-black-hebrew-israelites/
Who precisely made the claim that blacks commit most anti-Semitic hate crimes? You did, and it's a transparent attempt at deflection away from the fact that blacks commit hate crimes at a rate far higher than whites.
Again: if the incidence of hate crimes is an indication of underlying racism in an ethnic group then blacks are more racist than whites. End of story.
What's more in terms of simple criminality there has been no substantial reduction in violent crime rates post-Covid. By all appearances the US has entered into a new normal of chronically high crime rates.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/nypd-33-percent-arrested-for-antisemitic-crimes-in-2019-were-black-60-percent-white-612779/amp
Blacks make up 25% of the population in NYC and 12% of the country as a whole. At a national level given their small percentage of the population it would be surprising if they made up a majority of hate crime offenders.
Are they overrepresented though? Absolutely.
Fascinating. Not talking about "overepresentation" though, are we?
Nope, the language/claims around here is "most" and "majority." Is that factually incorrect? Absolutely.
Knew this thread would take this turn quite quickly. Spicy!
What post references "most" and a "majority"?
Several of them. Go have a look. Namely, BrammyMIA.
What text in what post specifically?
Just stop it. Once again - MOST PERPS ARE NOT ARRESTED NOR PROSECUTED. Stop Re-posting the same misleading and biased statistics 🤣
Stop it? Why should I allow you to promote fraudulent claims unopposed? "Most" and "majority" is simply factually incorrect.
The only one exhibiting bias and misleading commentary is you. And no emoji changes that.
But please provide your data/info of all the perps that are not arrested/prosecuted, although you are quite certain they are "the ones" commiting the "most" or "majority."
I knew this thread would go down this road very quickly. Spicy!
https://www.google.com/amp/s/m.jpost.com/diaspora/antisemitism/nypd-33-percent-arrested-for-antisemitic-crimes-in-2019-were-black-60-percent-white-612779/amp
What exactly are you arguing here? The source that YOU cited clearly indicates that blacks commit hate crimes at a level higher than their relative share of the overall population.
Yep. Sure did cite it. But were not talking proportionality, are we? Were not talking about "relative share," are we?
Funny how some are so eager to look at proportionality when it suits their purpose.
"Violence in this country against Jews has gone mostly ignored by this administration because no one wans to talk about WHO are the perpetrators of this violence. Woke politics means we can't discuss it." - BrammyMIA
"Media tried to spin it as White Supremacy on this rise, but it turned out the perpetrators were black, so the stories quietly went away." - Celia M
"Most of the anti-Semitic violence in the U.S. is perpetrated by blacks." - Steven N.
So, my argument is EXCEPTIONALLY clear. Black people do not commint the "most" nor the "majority" of anti-Semitic or anti-Asian hate crimes.
Not that difficult to understand. But I get it. It's time for whites (Christians and Jews) and Asians to come together and fight the real enemy ;)
I'm talking about relative share so I have no idea what you're talking about.
Blacks are only about 12% of the overall population but commit about 50% of all homicides in the US. I assume that since "half" doesn't qualify as "most" that's not a problem in your book?
And again, you are raising a straw man here. Nobody here was arguing that blacks commit most hate crimes against Jews or Asian Americans until you raised that.
Sigh....now you're moving to another favotite talking point...
Well, considering those majority of homicides are within the same community/race, how does that square with your intra-racially argument.
No strawman. I gave you specific quotes. So, don't pretend that didn't happen.
Comprof is the resident troll. Ignore him.
Resident fact-checker.
Not even close.
Such as? Links?
So your own admission, you disproved your own point. Interesting.
The problem is that about 60% of the country is white and 12% black. Whites are committing fewer shootings than would be expected given their share of the population and blacks are committing more.
Slaw, it is fruitless to use simple logic with people like RT and Comprof; they are immune.
Blacks make up 12% of the population and at least 50% of all homicide offenders (and victims). How is it not about race?
As for mass shootings, falling victim to one is lottery odds. At most 100-200 Americans will perish in a mass shooting in a given year. On the other hand the chances of being killed by firearm violence if you are poor, black, male and young is far higher.
Disenfranchised how?
The black homicide rate would still be far, far greater than the white homicide rate.
If the underlying cause is poverty, or disenfranchisement, or whatever what kind of solution is it to ignore root causes and try to target firearms?