Four scenarios from former NATO commander Admiral James Stavridis and Elliot Ackerman, decorated Marine veteran, on how it could happen.
It’s hard to be isolationist when your government is hell bent on waging war across the entire globe either directly or through proxies.
Make no mistake, this war is just as much Biden’s as it is Putin’s, maybe even more so.
I’m not isolationist. I’m anti-warmonger. I have been saying from the beginning that this conflict could go nuclear and therefore our government has a responsibility to negotiate and de-escalate. Instead DC has responded with tens of billions in weapons and bloodthirsty propaganda.
"But countless Americans are now inclined to view the president, no matter who he or she is, as illegitimate—simply because that president hails from the opposing party."
Good grief - and we allowed such fools to lead our brave fighting men? Sorry but the current occupant of the Oval Office is viewed as illegitimate because he was installed in a flawed election, in which damaging information about him was suppressed by our so-called "free press" which is simply an adjunct of the DNC. Moreover, the senile imbecile who was installed - and who now shambles aimlessly across the world's stage sowing chaos and mayhem - is credibly corrupt. His own son's (not the one who "died in Iraq) laptop computer contains evidence that our current president took laundered cash from the very malign actors that these kooky cassandras claim are not our worst enemies. And finally, they ignore the fact that our current president is the very source of the demonization of half of our nation as fascists and white supremacists. And has elevated generals and admirals who have presided over the purging of our most effective fighting forces. Rather than playing to this destructive narrative, how about seeing that our military is led by people who are invested in its one, existential task, keeping America safe and killing its enemies efficiently?
If one actually bothers to listen to Putin’s speeches, the official Russian nuclear doctrine hasn’t changed. It’s only retaliatory, not first strike. Whether that’s actually true or not is another issue, but this incessant misrepresentation of his actual statements is a perfect example of our propaganda. We have no such policy. We reserve the ability to use a first strike. We’re also the only nation to ever use nuclear weapons. There are no “good guys” and “bad guys”, just self interested nations executing foreign policy objectives from bad to worse. This isn’t some epic Manichaean battle between good and evil. This article is rife with war propaganda. More $$$$$ for the MIC. And no, I am not “pro” Russian. I am anti-war. This all could have been avoided if we acted like adults and strived for diplomacy, detente, and had worked to have the Minsk 1 and 2 agreements honored. Of course that’s apparently not in our “national interest”. Sigh.
With these morons we have in charge now, it’s not a question of if they’ll mishandle an international crisis, it’s how bad they’ll screw it up.
Cui bono? What does the US get from sending billions to Ukraine? Do Biden et al think this will destroy Russia once and for all? How did that work out for Germany after WW I? Telling Americans we must send hundreds of billions of our printed money to help the poor suffering Ukrainians---just look at the photos---doesn’t cut it for me.
I’m not sure why we should give any credibility to the words or ‘insights’ from a man who oversaw, as NATO Commander, the disaster in Afghanistan for many years.
What is so wrong with isolationism? Policing the world at the cost of our middle and lower class children’s lives, only hurts this country more. When politicians and upper class kids are forced into conscription (and not cushy officers positions in the National Guard), then we can have an honest conversation about the costs of war.
Nobody considers Alleged President Asterisk illegitimate because he's from the wrong party. They consider him illegitimate because he was swept into office by a combination of fraud, a gutless opposition party, and a whimpering, fearful judiciary that wouldn't allow a single shred of evidence to even be heard, citing "standing" and other irrelevancies, lest it become immortalized in the public record.
A few months ago, we learned with the overturn of Roe vs. Wade that massive errors do not go away by the simple passage of time; they just fester like abscesses until they are lanced. Thus it will be with the Titular President's "election."
It seems more than possible that Ukraine deliberately fired the missiles into Poland in order to bring NATO troops into the war or at the very least push for mo money mo money mo money. Because isn’t it fishy that firing missiles to the west against Russians somehow ended up go8ng east into Poland?
As admiral Painter said in The Hunt For Red October (in which literally everything can be explained) “This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it.
No doubt the US destroyed the pipeline. Funny how Trump was vilified for asking Germany not to depend upon Russia for energy. But when Biden crew literally blow up the pipeline…crickets.
"the Russian military, according to its doctrine, would employ a strategy of escalate to de-escalate. The idea is straightforward: dramatically escalate from conventional to nuclear weapons with the goal of shocking one’s enemy into quickly suing for peace. It is a philosophy of warfare that differs fundamentally from our own, and that’s designed for a nation, like Russia, with a nuclear capability that far exceeds that of its conventional forces. "
Have these guys forgotten "shock and awe" which was precisely this strategy designed to cause the Iraqi military to give up. Obvious errors like this seriously degrade the credibility of these authors.
By the way, I would like all those here supporting the rush to war — for as long as it takes!—to be sure to enroll in the military or pull their kids out of those Ivy League colleges and get them enlisted. The Iraq war had too many working class kids. It’s equity! Get your a— in the military! Let’s tell Putin who is boss. Why talk about negotiations!
When you mentioned Chinese sleeper cells activating I was unable to concentrate on the bulk of the article.
Here in Canada we have become aware of Chinese "police" that have set up camp in most of our major cities. With the permission of our government we can only assume, because they show no signs of leaving. The people who have escaped China are being chased inside the country where they sought refuge, and from what we can see no one cares. My concern is that these "police" may indeed be sleeper cells and they are here to take us by surprise from within when this World War begins. This won't be a World War, it will be a war against the working class.
In 2019 and 2020 we discovered the Canadian gov't under Trudeaus blessing had been training Chinese military on our bases and showing them... what exactly? They were officers. Why would we have them here for excersizes of any kind? Why did the US stand by and watch that happening?
I believe we need to be fixing the issues on our own shores of North America before we go looking for trouble anywhere else. Canadians are our neighbors and yet we've watched them be beaten, tear gassed and have horses ridden over them during a legal peaceful protest... we watched and did nothing. We have foxes in the henhouse but everyone is looking at countries overseas which have been at war with one another since the beginning of time.
The US dropped atomic bombs on Japan knowing full well what those bombs would do. Russia is not about to that to a country that is at least 1/2 Russian. If the US would simply back off and let the dust settle we wouldn't even be having this conversation.
The military does what it's told to do by those who are supposed to be at the helm. Think about that and then look at our situation here in North America.
I wonder about the last paragraph:
> "We should all fear the day when a vast majority of Americans cannot agree on who the rightful commander in chief is. All international what ifs pale in comparison to this domestic what if, and if we’re not careful, we could become our own worst-case scenario."
We're living in that very day right now, right? Many in these comments still believe the Big Lie: That the election was stolen from Trump. They believe this, mainly, because Trump told them so repeatedly. That's the very method to use propaganda for nefarious purposes.
And, yeah. This is a worst-case scenario we're dealing with. And, yeah, it could *always* get worse. Recent elections bring some relief, as was written in article. Still...
jt in case you missed it, I have been punctilious about never stating that the election was stolen or that the votes counted didn't make Biden the winner. But that has nothing whatsoever to do with the appalling unfairness of the 2020 election.
JFK warned during the Cuban Missile Crisis how hubris and a series of mistakes and miscalculations by global nations led to World War I and 13 million deaths. Now, six decades later, we are making many of the same mistakes. Though the Cold War ended 30+ years ago, shades of its ethos have returned ... and we find ourselves playing a similar game of nuclear chicken. See below...