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Two Drinks With. . . Steve Bannon’s ‘Transhumanist Editor’
Joe Allen’s been touring the country with Humans First. (All photos by Alyssa Schukar for The Free Press)
The anti-AI activist says he is “proudly” in the tradition of the Satanic Panic—and that it’s everyone’s job to save America from our AI-slop future.
By Suzy Weiss
07.10.26 — Two Drinks
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Over a plate of spaghetti Bolognese and a carafe of the house red, Joe Allen tells me what might happen when artificial intelligence surpasses the capabilities of humanity.

“Someone—Thomas Massie, or Bernie Sanders—ends up taking the fucking longevity injection,” says Allen, 46, an anti-AI activist who’s railed against the technology for years, most prominently as the “transhumanist editor” for Steve Bannon’s popular War Room podcast. “He lives forever, but he becomes a Luddite, and he just completely shuts down the entire economy . . . and then China takes over, and we’re all speaking Mandarin and eating noodles.”

Allen adds, “I don’t think that’s gonna happen,” but hey—anything can happen.

Another option, he muses between sips of wine, is that we will end up in a Matrix-style hellscape, where humans are made subservient not to the Chinese Communist Party but to a class of sentient computers who survey and control our every move.

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Suzy Weiss
Suzy Weiss is a co-founder and reporter for The Free Press and host of Second Thought. Before that, she worked as a features reporter at the New York Post. There, she covered the internet, culture, dating, dieting, technology, and Gen Z. Her work has also appeared in Tablet, the New York Daily News, The Wall Street Journal, and McSweeney's Internet Tendency, among others.
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