The point about repressing homosexuality in movies doesn't seem legitimate. I get the impression movie studios are in a contest to depict as many LGBT characters as possible. Even in Bohemian Rhapsody, Freddie Mercury was clearly gay, not in the closet at all.
Nobody wants to rock the boat and scream out about these things they see … until the products of this accumulation sneak up and BITE US ON THE BUTT, and we exclaim: “What was THAT?”
Why exactly should the Chinese be expected to accept woke LGBT messaging and pro-US propaganda if their people don't desire it? You are crying about Hollywood movies being effectively censored by the CCP. The Chinese don't have to worry about this problem because they protect their economy and their culture. If you hate Chinese values so much, why are you so clearly jealous of their system? Can you imagine a Chinese film being censored to avoid offending the sensibilities of Americans? Maybe there is something to be said about Chinese 'authoritarianism' after all.
Why do you say any of us are "jealous" of the CCP? The only leverage they have is the sheer size of their market. Everything about their system is abhorrent. Personally, I'm not a fan of woke messaging, but here in the US we are free to call it out, or produce independent media free of big studio censorship. Do you really prefer an authoritarian system where the government has full control over what you watch or can say? If so, why are you subscribed to this blog?
Its not just "Top Gun" that's being censored. This comment is being taken down on British Newspaper websites:
Bill Gates: "[At the beginning of the epidemic] we didn't understand that [COVID-19 has] a fairly low fatality rate and it's mainly a disease of the elderly - kinda like flu - although a bit different than flu."
The 92nd Street Y, New York. Bill Gates with Fareed Zakaria: How to Prevent the Next Pandemic: Livestream
I have never watched this series...always seemed a little 'Team America". I think movies like those censured in China are purely a commercial enterprise...not fine art cinema (which usually is f-up by Woke Studios without Chinese Censors) Free the Urghars and Tibetans!!! The Chinese people will in the near future overthrown these Capitalist/ Commies. We should keep sending our Intoxicating Pop Culture....
I couldn't care less what the makers of such stupid action movies like the one in question do to accommodate any Chinese sensitivities or those of other countries for that matter. They are pure propaganda movies anyway, brainwashing some ridiculous myths about America's role in the world into the brains of the uninformed masses in the movie theatres and in front of their TV sets. I do not watch such crap anyway.
I've never been all that fond of Hollywood Movies anyway. They never inform or inspire or even just entertain, they were always about spreading false myths about the history and the present role of the US gun our world. Starting with the garbage John Wayne became famous for up to the modern day woke bullshit. It's all about money and creating those false myths in the process, mostly accommodating the en vogue stereotypes and ideological fashion of the day. Back in the day anticommunism was the big thing and nowadays it's more like Gender BS and or so called "antiracism".
The film makers never seem to have at heart what I wanna watch, but how to accommodate someone, therefore they put lots of guns and violence in their production to keep the NRA happy and go to great lengths to make sure there are enough females, homosexuals and dark-skinned people on the screen to keep the woke crowd off their backs. And now? You develop a problem when they are trying to please some Chinese censor too? Well, the ship of opportunitism has long left Hollywood Harbour before it came to that. It seems You're a little late with criticizing that.
I was unaware until now that Hollywood, in its beginnings, was in bed with the Progressives of that generations. "An adjunct of the State Department." That's a fascinating revelation that I will have to ponder.
The good one is “Conservatism: A Rediscovery”. Basically, N.S. explains the problem with liberalism is that if everyone is gonna be “free” and “equal,” then that means there can’t be the least little bit of a constraint on *anybody.* This is a tiny section of it. Hope some enjoy..
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Constraint is valued if it is culturally honored. Religion is an especially systematized and effective way to establish what deserves to be honored. Constraint and liberalism do not get along.
Honor can only be distributed in hierarchies to which we are loyal. All human groups arrange themselves into hierarchies automatically, whether we want them to or not. Healthy, self-aware hierarchies facilitate gradations of respect and honor, and allow for the modeling of values, virtues, and constraint for those lower in the hierarchy by those higher up. Those lower in the hierarchy can rise by being honored with status for meeting these standards. Hierarchies are a medium capable of the *transmission* and propagation of traditions and institutions across generations. The quintessential example is from parents to children.
However, for transmission to occur – or even more so, for the repair or restoration of failing and diminished traditions or institutions to be accomplished – leaders in a societal hierarchy must personally be seen to publicly honor what is to be passed on. Transmission of traditions is not possible through only the transmission of ideas, but must be practiced by those leaders who seek its propagation, and by those who are to learn. Conservatism is therefore not a theory, but a *lived tradition.*
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When liberal societies honor no traditions, but actively dishonor them, individuals have nowhere to turn for guidance on how to live; the result is fundamental confusion and nihilism, lawlessness and an expansive state. Liberalism promises the individual dignity, but felt dignity cannot be handed out: it is experienced when an individual pursues dignified pursuits in life, meets their mutual responsibilities, and is honored for it. Thus many now languish in nihilism or seek to try to seize dignity for themselves by force of power. . . .
A true conservative is therefore not “someone who stands athwart history, yelling ‘Stop’,” or a progressive who’s just twenty years behind the curve, but an agent of *restoration* and rejuvenation through *retraditioning.* . . . In doing so, Hazony is reaching out to try to offer hope not only to mainstream conservatives, but to two other groups as well: to the younger, reactionary “dissident” right who feel there is nothing at all left to conserve and are therefore open to radical alternatives; and to those committed classical liberals (like, one might assume, Fukuyama) who are genuinely disturbed by the direction liberalism has taken and are looking for a way forward (or, rather, backward).
Top drawer information, analysis and writing about TOP GUN. It isn’t easy to find reporting of such quality and integrity —and bravery. That’s why I subscribe.
I hope this is a step in the right direction for Hollywood - perhaps the immense box office success of Top Gun Maverick will show them Americans will actually go to the theatre if it’s not some woke “rub your nose in it” agenda that is depressing and stupid. People want to be entertained not lectured.
1. It was really good. I mean I enjoyed it and was interested and entertained AND I felt good about the message it was sending. Patriotism, courage, etc. No drag queen or gay or racist or whatever plot overlays clumsily bolted on.
2. I guess the unidentified enemy nation was Iran since their nuclear program is a known threat and, more specifically, they were and maybe still are a user of F-14's (we sold some to them in the 1970's before the 1979 revolution) and Mi-24 Hind helicopters.
3. I re-watched the original Top Gun - Iceman, whom I remembered as a bully, actually comes across as pretty responsible and a team player.
The point about repressing homosexuality in movies doesn't seem legitimate. I get the impression movie studios are in a contest to depict as many LGBT characters as possible. Even in Bohemian Rhapsody, Freddie Mercury was clearly gay, not in the closet at all.
Nobody wants to rock the boat and scream out about these things they see … until the products of this accumulation sneak up and BITE US ON THE BUTT, and we exclaim: “What was THAT?”
Why exactly should the Chinese be expected to accept woke LGBT messaging and pro-US propaganda if their people don't desire it? You are crying about Hollywood movies being effectively censored by the CCP. The Chinese don't have to worry about this problem because they protect their economy and their culture. If you hate Chinese values so much, why are you so clearly jealous of their system? Can you imagine a Chinese film being censored to avoid offending the sensibilities of Americans? Maybe there is something to be said about Chinese 'authoritarianism' after all.
Why do you say any of us are "jealous" of the CCP? The only leverage they have is the sheer size of their market. Everything about their system is abhorrent. Personally, I'm not a fan of woke messaging, but here in the US we are free to call it out, or produce independent media free of big studio censorship. Do you really prefer an authoritarian system where the government has full control over what you watch or can say? If so, why are you subscribed to this blog?
Its not just "Top Gun" that's being censored. This comment is being taken down on British Newspaper websites:
Bill Gates: "[At the beginning of the epidemic] we didn't understand that [COVID-19 has] a fairly low fatality rate and it's mainly a disease of the elderly - kinda like flu - although a bit different than flu."
The 92nd Street Y, New York. Bill Gates with Fareed Zakaria: How to Prevent the Next Pandemic: Livestream
I have never watched this series...always seemed a little 'Team America". I think movies like those censured in China are purely a commercial enterprise...not fine art cinema (which usually is f-up by Woke Studios without Chinese Censors) Free the Urghars and Tibetans!!! The Chinese people will in the near future overthrown these Capitalist/ Commies. We should keep sending our Intoxicating Pop Culture....
Courage. Truth. Some things are more important then money
I couldn't care less what the makers of such stupid action movies like the one in question do to accommodate any Chinese sensitivities or those of other countries for that matter. They are pure propaganda movies anyway, brainwashing some ridiculous myths about America's role in the world into the brains of the uninformed masses in the movie theatres and in front of their TV sets. I do not watch such crap anyway.
I've never been all that fond of Hollywood Movies anyway. They never inform or inspire or even just entertain, they were always about spreading false myths about the history and the present role of the US gun our world. Starting with the garbage John Wayne became famous for up to the modern day woke bullshit. It's all about money and creating those false myths in the process, mostly accommodating the en vogue stereotypes and ideological fashion of the day. Back in the day anticommunism was the big thing and nowadays it's more like Gender BS and or so called "antiracism".
The film makers never seem to have at heart what I wanna watch, but how to accommodate someone, therefore they put lots of guns and violence in their production to keep the NRA happy and go to great lengths to make sure there are enough females, homosexuals and dark-skinned people on the screen to keep the woke crowd off their backs. And now? You develop a problem when they are trying to please some Chinese censor too? Well, the ship of opportunitism has long left Hollywood Harbour before it came to that. It seems You're a little late with criticizing that.
I was unaware until now that Hollywood, in its beginnings, was in bed with the Progressives of that generations. "An adjunct of the State Department." That's a fascinating revelation that I will have to ponder.
China is the main source for another critical resource: antimony.
https://dailycaller.com/2022/06/09/us-military-china-russia-ammunition-antimony-mining/
This isn’t entirely off-topic. N.S. Lyons makes You think. He wrote a long essay reviewing two books revolving around classic liberalism. https://theupheaval.substack.com/p/liberalism-and-its-discontinuities?s=r (probably paywalled)
The good one is “Conservatism: A Rediscovery”. Basically, N.S. explains the problem with liberalism is that if everyone is gonna be “free” and “equal,” then that means there can’t be the least little bit of a constraint on *anybody.* This is a tiny section of it. Hope some enjoy..
-----------------------------
Constraint is valued if it is culturally honored. Religion is an especially systematized and effective way to establish what deserves to be honored. Constraint and liberalism do not get along.
Honor can only be distributed in hierarchies to which we are loyal. All human groups arrange themselves into hierarchies automatically, whether we want them to or not. Healthy, self-aware hierarchies facilitate gradations of respect and honor, and allow for the modeling of values, virtues, and constraint for those lower in the hierarchy by those higher up. Those lower in the hierarchy can rise by being honored with status for meeting these standards. Hierarchies are a medium capable of the *transmission* and propagation of traditions and institutions across generations. The quintessential example is from parents to children.
However, for transmission to occur – or even more so, for the repair or restoration of failing and diminished traditions or institutions to be accomplished – leaders in a societal hierarchy must personally be seen to publicly honor what is to be passed on. Transmission of traditions is not possible through only the transmission of ideas, but must be practiced by those leaders who seek its propagation, and by those who are to learn. Conservatism is therefore not a theory, but a *lived tradition.*
:
:
:
When liberal societies honor no traditions, but actively dishonor them, individuals have nowhere to turn for guidance on how to live; the result is fundamental confusion and nihilism, lawlessness and an expansive state. Liberalism promises the individual dignity, but felt dignity cannot be handed out: it is experienced when an individual pursues dignified pursuits in life, meets their mutual responsibilities, and is honored for it. Thus many now languish in nihilism or seek to try to seize dignity for themselves by force of power. . . .
A true conservative is therefore not “someone who stands athwart history, yelling ‘Stop’,” or a progressive who’s just twenty years behind the curve, but an agent of *restoration* and rejuvenation through *retraditioning.* . . . In doing so, Hazony is reaching out to try to offer hope not only to mainstream conservatives, but to two other groups as well: to the younger, reactionary “dissident” right who feel there is nothing at all left to conserve and are therefore open to radical alternatives; and to those committed classical liberals (like, one might assume, Fukuyama) who are genuinely disturbed by the direction liberalism has taken and are looking for a way forward (or, rather, backward).
I need to shave my face today.
Handing China the KY Jelly, Corporate America has bent over and said:
Please sir, may i have some more-please sir, may i have some more!
Population of China 1.4 billion
Muslim population 2 billion
Jewish population 15 million
We would like to thank Unilever for their Ben and Jerry's advertising campaign in the West Bank as the plan for the future destruction of the Jews.
Do you really think Corporate America has the integrity to do anything different when Jewish lives are at the stake?
The same people who deny the existence of Taiwan also deny the existence of Women. They also deny the existence of America...
Those who deny the reality of billions to please a Powerful Few do so for a reason - to make the world of the Powerful Few a reality.
Deny THEM.
Top drawer information, analysis and writing about TOP GUN. It isn’t easy to find reporting of such quality and integrity —and bravery. That’s why I subscribe.
I hope this is a step in the right direction for Hollywood - perhaps the immense box office success of Top Gun Maverick will show them Americans will actually go to the theatre if it’s not some woke “rub your nose in it” agenda that is depressing and stupid. People want to be entertained not lectured.
Exactly.
Spoilers - let's talk about the movie.
1. It was really good. I mean I enjoyed it and was interested and entertained AND I felt good about the message it was sending. Patriotism, courage, etc. No drag queen or gay or racist or whatever plot overlays clumsily bolted on.
2. I guess the unidentified enemy nation was Iran since their nuclear program is a known threat and, more specifically, they were and maybe still are a user of F-14's (we sold some to them in the 1970's before the 1979 revolution) and Mi-24 Hind helicopters.
3. I re-watched the original Top Gun - Iceman, whom I remembered as a bully, actually comes across as pretty responsible and a team player.