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Remember, remember...'s avatar

To paraphrase Will Rogers, "Lindsey Graham never met a war he didn't like."

That aside, I've otherwise thought pretty highly of him.

Dr. Tom Servo's avatar

Ruth Marcus is a brazen libtard. Why should anyone care what she parrots, er, I mean, "thinks"?

Lanny's avatar

Perhaps the geatest sportswriter of all time was Grantland Rice.

He wrote...

"For when the One Great Scorer comes to mark against your name, He writes - not that you won or lost - But HOW you played the Game."

I hope that when my time comes I am judged not by my worst game but how I played the entire season.

Lindsey Graham lost some games and in several of them he played poorly...

BUT on balance we should all hope to have played that well for our full season.

Doc's avatar

On Brown University Cheating and AI exams……………..

You have to be kidding me!!!!!!!!

I was a doctoral chair and professor for decades. You know how you challenge students? You make them, not only write exams, you make them do ORAL EXAMS. No notes. One on one. One at a time in class, with time and date.

Create exam questions from the required text and MORE. Then give them a day a time a place where the exams will be given. One on ONE. When someone must answer a question within a universe of subjects selected by the professor, that student will become CONVERSANT.

Be creative. With respect, any exam that is AI driven will be AI answered. Making any course interesting is UP TO THE PROFESSOR FIRST OF ALL.

These themes come through in the professor’s article. While well-meaning, of course.

“Help” versus EMPOWERMENT. I empowered my students/doctoral candidates. I never “helped” them. Hand out. Or, provide them the tools to learn more, do more, be more. University is supposed to be tough.

“Anxiety. Internal and external pressure” - As if these aspects of life ever end. Welcome to the REAL WORLD. This is the phase of life where time orientation, time management, empirical evidence, rigor, and excellence should be endemic. I keep hearing how the young today have more pressure than decades ago. Bull Shite. Pressure should be part of daily life. It makes YOU BETTER.

“Right incentives” - Your incentive in any scholarly and/or academic context is to LEARN, TO USE YOUR HIGHER ORDER CRITICAL FACULTIES.

What possibly could be “right” incentives aside from graduating with the highest honors you could possibly earn? Excellence leads to excellence. Placing a carrot in front of a student to lead them is anathema.

I mean good grief.

Finally, why do you think the administration did nothing? Easy. PR. If they accept the professor’s experiences a flood of other professors will provide the fodder to create a nightmare for the university. They pay their money. Mommy and Daddy or the Students EXPECT THAT DEGREE. Sad but true. I have experienced this many times over the decades. Transparency is scary but a long-term fruitful change. Every professor in the last 50 years knows this to be a dirty little secret.

So, no more, or less, written or computerized exams. More ORAL EXAMS. How do you grade? Easy. You provide a list of issues that must be articulated during the exam of about 30 minutes for undergrads. 10 open-ended questions. More or less for graduates. The student/candidate must “hit” or address a percentage of those items during the articulation. Easy grading for the professor. Proof for the student/candidate.

Simple.

I went to law school, had to pass the GMAT and LSAT. I also earned a PhD (where I had to be invited into the program) and that was a book, international research, and Oral exams, and DEFENSE OF MY DISSERTATION RESEARCH TO ANYONE IN THE ROOM OF HUNDREDS WHO COULD ASK ME ANY QUESTION AT ALL, including my doctoral committee. Scary? You bet. But it built my confidence and moved me on to become ONE OF THEM, INCLUDING A PRACTITIONER IN MY FIELDS. That was decades ago. But I am proud of those accomplishments forward.

Talk about “been there done that”? We are building confidence in our students/candidates. Pride in accomplishments. Rigor. Excellence.

Saoirse Mates

Dr. Tom Servo's avatar

As a fellow faculty member, I see your point. However, with up to 35 students in a section, oral exams are not an option. Sure, it works with doc students (I went through the same process for my PhD), or even a master's thesis, but not for your average class.

EKB ✡️ 🕎 🇺🇸's avatar

RIP in Lindsey Graham.

FWIW-That is where it should end. To those having meltdowns, history will write the story of whether Graham was correct in embracing Trump in order to get things done in the US that he wanted or if he should have become a Never Trumper. But you spitting on a dead man who served his country for decades (unlike the vast majority of those wishing ill of Graham) is not a good look and you truly deserve derision.

EKB ✡️ 🕎 🇺🇸's avatar

RIP in Lindsey Graham.

FWIW-That is where it should end. To those having meltdowns, history will write the story of whether Graham was correct in embracing Trump in order to get things done in the US that he wanted or if he should have become a Never Trumper. But you spitting on a dead man who served his country for decades (unlike the vast majority of those wishing ill of Graham) is not a good look and you truly deserve derision.

EKB ✡️ 🕎 🇺🇸's avatar

RIP in Lindsey Graham.

FWIW-That is where it should end. To those having meltdowns, history will write the story of whether Graham was correct in embracing Trump in order to get things done in the US that he wanted or if he should have become a Never Trumper. But you spitting on a dead man who served his country for decades (unlike the vast majority of those wishing ill of Graham) is not a good look and you truly deserve derision.

Kevin Durant?'s avatar

“The paper’s top lawyer called it a brazen attempt to “intimidate journalists from doing their jobs.””

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Alex Jones is now starring blankly into the camera with the dollar amount of the Fox News settlement with Dominion displayed over his right shoulder.

James Quinn's avatar

On May 3, 2016, Senator Lindsey Graham posted on social media: “If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed…….and we will deserve it.”

I’m sorry, but all these attempts to excuse or explain Graham’s surrender to a man he knew to be all that Trump has turned out to be fail at one moment - the moment that Graham voted to aquit Trump after January 6th. At that point he knew that convicting Trump would obviate any further need to work with him in any way, regardless of what Graham might have felt he could do convince Trump to do good, or at least not to do too bad.

At that moment, he and the rest of his utterly misguided Republican colleagues doomed us to the most viscous, the most autocratic, and the most corrupt administration in America history. That is his legacy.

Kevin Durant?'s avatar

“Steve Schmidt, a “Never Trumper” and former adviser to the late senator John McCain, called him “a simple, tragic man” who “lacked a moral core.””

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John McCain reversed everything he ever promised to his voters regarding healthcare so that he could spite Donald Trump because he didn’t like Trump’s personality.

Steve Schmidt is best friends with someone who is known to engage in things I am not allowed to type in the comments section.

Steve Schmidt wrote that as a joke for everyone who knows Steve Schmidt.

Kevin Durant?'s avatar

Lindsey Graham (R) was obviously bleeped by bleep in order to send a message to other bleeps.

Evans W's avatar
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I'm so grateful for Senator Lindsey Graham's half dozen visits to western North Carolina to comfort suffering North Carolinians who lost everything after hurricane Helene in September of 2024. Oh.....never mind.....that was Ukraine.

Eli Lake - Graham was able to 'catch more flies with honey than vinegar' & 'helped guide Trump to take military action against Iran, reconsider a premature and sudden withdrawal of U.S. forces from Syria, and perhaps avoid a full breakup with NATO.' I don't wanna be the buzz kill here Eli, but Trump staying/getting out of foreign military entanglements and hammering the shit out of NATO were things Trump mentioned often during his campaign and what helped give him the popular vote and reelection. Lets also not forget that Graham said Trump was 'A race-baiting, xenophobic, religious bigot', 'Unfit to be president', 'A kook.'? And the grand slam IMHO......Graham said 'You guys should have shot them all in the head” referring to the J6’ers.

I'm not celebrating the death of the man, but I'm not loosing sleep over it ever. IMO, he did more harm than good.

You don't hate the media enough - you think you do, but you don't. https://x.com/Evans_Wroten

Laura T's avatar

Every time I think I hate the media- I find out I hate them more- sooooo true.

Lanny's avatar

There were many isues I vociferously disagreed with Lindsey Graham on.

BUT a man should be judged on the balance of his life and not be defined by either his best or hs worst moments.

On balance we lost a good man

Kevin Durant?'s avatar

So the King of Qatar and Lindsey Graham both died at the same time? I want to make sure I have this correct for the flow chart on the massive white board in my garage…….

Laura T's avatar

We most definitely did lose a good one. And we are all more than our best or worst movements. Like most things in life, people are never truly black or white on issues or as a whole but varying shades of gray throughout our lives.

Lanny's avatar

"For when the One Great Scorer comes to mark against your name, He writes - not that you won or lost - But HOW you played the Game."

Grantland Rice

I hope that when my time comes that I am judged not by the worst game I played but by how played the full seaon.

Clarity Seeker's avatar

I keep asking ( and will continue to keep asking), what the standard is regarding commentary after a celebrated person dies? Is there ( should there be) a single standard of general respect without regard to politics or are there no standards?

In the last 24 hours we have seen much hatred expressed just as we did after Charlie Kirk was killed. These types of reactions are now commonplace just are the bumper stickers I constantly see that say F Trump ( now " elevated" to say Kill Trump).

And Trump of course never misses an opportunity to make a vile , unnecessary, remark when someone dies or is killed who attacked hin or who he did not like ( reiner, mueller)

Trump didn't start this trend although many want to pretend he did.

I supported Graham on certain matters and disagreed on others but my views are irrelevant when it comes to.how I react on his sudden death. That in my strong opinion should be how a civilized person who wishes to be respected should react

For those casting invectives the past few days ( including in private circles) I only say this : if that is your standard do not complain or moan when the shoe is on the other foot as one from your "team" dies or you see a bumper sticker or hear a shout to F your guy or gal.

ONE STANDRD CONSISTENTLY FOLLOWED. And not only regarding this subject.

Evans W's avatar

Of course it's gotten much worse since social media was rolled out to the world. I don't know if you remember, but when facebook first started people were posting fun trips they went on, their kids, dogs and so on and people were nice and polite for the most part.....they way one would be if we were face to face. The culture wars and tweaking of algorithms and bots changed all of that. It brought out the worst in many people. (I've been guilty of it). Problem is, the toothpaste is out of the tube now. Promoting violence like k*ll someone will still get you banned on social media and in some cases get you a visit by law enforcement as it should. I'm a 1A absolutist, but calls for violence to a group or person doesn't fall under 1A protections. I'll still take the wild west that we have here in America over the bullshit in the UK where people are being jailed for posting meme's. Hope you are well my friend.

Clarity Seeker's avatar

We are on the same page amigo. I am not on Facebook or instagram etc. and I never will be . But as you say the toothpaste is out of the tube. I cannot fathom or imagine how much worse this will all be in another 5-10 years. The answer is education in my mind except our teachers are now activists and cheerleaders for more mayhem and regression. Yikes

Lanny's avatar

Left FB years ago.

Between the censorship by the administrators and the increasing hatred of the commenters it simply got to be too much.

Lanny's avatar

Beautifully and thoughtfully said.

"...are there no standards?"

To answer your question...

Sadly they seem to be slipping badly.

Clarity Seeker's avatar

And it says so much about our societal regression. And it is mkt limited to just one faction although I would argue it is much more predominant on the left , the colleges having planted the seeds and then watered the plants.

Lanny's avatar

Yep, the "what aboutism" of our society makes for a moral equivalency argument that mystifies me.