Give Mamdani a break. No New York jew has anything to fear from Mamdani. Just read or listen to his further explanations of the comments you find so alarming. Even journalists at The Free Press are allowed to issue "further clarifications" when people express consternation over the opening gambit.
The issue of our age is the war on the patriarchy -- aka the society that privileged motherhood. When Hillary was interviewed after the 2024 election, she put the election squarely in the context of "we aren't going back" to motherhood -- those immigrants can have those babies. Throwing open the border (and no doubt encouraging and facilitating immigrants to get to the border) made no sense outside of nihilistic chaos but, hey, the vaunted patriarchal society needed to be destroyed once and for all. No good options now in cleaning up the mess. And a lot of people (especially poor immigrants who were really just pawns) are hurt profoundly by the chaos.
If Immigration is the issue of our age, maybe it would be helpful to look at some historical context and facts rather than who can currently make the most noise about it for political points:
Border Encounters:
2017-2020: 1,979,000
2021-2024: 7,471,000 (+370%)
Bill Clinton, 1995 State of the Union:
"All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected, but in every place in this country are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The jobs they hold may otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public services they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. . We are a nation of immigrants, but we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must do more to stop it!"
Barbara Jordan, Civil rights leader, U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform (1993 under Clinton), Democrat Representative:
"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave." "We must, we must control illegal immigration before it erodes our first commitment to legal immigration in the national interest. We have concluded that a properly regulated, legal immigration system is in the national interest. We support the basic framework of current policy, but I said 'properly regulated', and I mean that. Immigration is not a right guaranteed by the U.S. constitution guaranteed to everyone, anywhere in the world who thinks they want to come to the United States. Immigration is a privilege!"
2015 Bernie Sanders claiming the Koch brothers favored mass illegal immigration: "What I think they are interested in, is seeing a process by which we can bring low wage labor of all levels into this country, to depress wages in America."
12/4/2014, ACLU: The Ones Obama Left Behind - And Deported Without a Chance to Be Heard
"Each year, over 363, 279 - 83 percent - of deportations from the United States are ordered by immigration officers, NOT judges. Those deported in 'summary removal' processes do NOT get a hearing or a chance to present evidence, or call a lawyer, or even say goodbye to their families before they are banished, sometimes for life."
4/7/2014, TIME: Most Immigrants Deported Under Obama Had Thin or NO Criminal Record
"Two-thirds of immigrants deported from the U.S. since 2008 committed minor traffic violations or had NO criminal record at all despite Obama's promise that his administration was targeting immigrants who were threats to the community."
3/21/2014 ACLU: Three Ways We Got to 2 Million (3.1 million total for 8 Obama years)
"In its first five years, the Obama Administration has deported about twice as many people as the Bush Administration did in the same period - all while the number of immigration judges has remained virtually stagnant and border apprehensions are at an all-time low." "The reality is that this Administration has increasingly relied on methods, such as expedited removal and reinstatements of old decisions."
1/4/2016: Obama Administration Kicks Off Family Deportation Raids
“The Obama administration confirmed Monday that it began a new wave of arrests of Central American immigrant families over the weekend, moving forward with deportations of mothers and children despite an outcry from immigrant rights groups and potential political fallout for Democrats.”
7/10/2010: New York Times: Illegal Workers Swept From Jobs in 'Silent'Raids'
2024, Batya Ungar-Sargon, author: Second Class - How the Elites Betrayed America's Working Men and Women
After traveling the country talking to working class folks for her book she writes:
"Working-class Americans across the political spectrum felt strongly that mass immigration had contributed to lower wages for their work, worse conditions, and stiffer competition in general for lower-income people".
Is it coincidence that as the Democrats started to change their stance to a more favorable position on illegal immigration that working class voters started shifting to the right?
In your discussion of immigration, you use the word “migrants” without ever dealing with the concept of legality. Too bad you chose to go with the trope that we are all immigrants instead of specifically commenting on the legal versus illegal immigration or perhaps legal or illegal migrants.
Immigration: Raise your hand if you "dislike" immigrants. Well you "dislike" yourself. As said by so many we're a nation of immigrants. Whether your ancestors arrived on the Mayflower, are descendants of Hessians or fled religious persecution or famine makes little difference. My father & grandparents immigrated from Ukraine (Not the Ukraine we know today). They couldn't speak a word of english, but they learned. That fact alone is of paramount importance. At home they spoke yiddish but outside it was English. For my grandparents it was never Kings English but I had no difficulty understanding them. My father's English was impeccable. Some of my neighbors spoke Greek or Italian in the home but outside it was always English.
It was a warm, beautiful, early April day in D.C.; The front door to my grandparent's home was open letting in the Sun. I was in the foyer & looked up. "Mom, grandma why are you crying?" "The President is dead". They weren't crying because they were immigrants from Ukraine but they were Americans & their President had died. They didn't "peacefully" protest in the streets, carrying the Stars & Bars screaming "Lynch the Blacks & send them back to Africa"!
The answer is assimilation. They celebrated Thanksgiving. They learned to appreciate the vote & most importantly the Constitution.
I took Spanish in college & it's far more beautiful than German. Do we as Americans wish to become a Canada where half the population speaks English & the other half are mandated to speak French?
The Obuma, Biden, Giggles the Dolt Syndicate permitted million to enter the country, unvetted. I'm certain that many "illegals" are decent, human beings who only wish a better life. However some are thugs or mental disturbed & others harbor an evil, hateful ideology. It's been estimated that there may be up to several hundred thousand unvetted children who may be in harms way.
Do you wish an open immigration policy, Well OK? But let's be certain whom we're permitting to enter. Hitlers' & Stalins' need not apply! It's too dangerous.
I do not dislike legal immigrants, but think it is rather stupid of the US to not be more selective of the immigrants it accepts. Government should ensure that immigrants have the education and skills to be self-supporting, productive members of society.
Unfortunately that isn't the case and a Pew Research Report a few years back said that 50 to 70 percent of LEGAL immigrant families, with the percentage depending on family make-up, were receiving some form of welfare.
A final thought on Ukraine: millions dead, cities destroyed, quality of life diminished and Zelensky, who’s not in the driver’s seat, wants to continue on our treasure when he could lose the whole country? Any country involved with the Clintons and Bidens must be corrupt.
Before TFP prints publishes another article about bad actors on the right, check your sources! “Ironically, progressives spent years insisting that the gravest threat to political discourse came from Russian bots boosting Trump. Now many of the most toxic voices inside the right-wing ecosystem turn out to be foreign operatives promoting narratives—anti-Israel, anti-interventionist, anti-Western—that large segments of the left quietly share. The Macedonian teenagers have been replaced by something far more professional and, judging from the immediate self-deletions of exposed accounts, far better resourced - and major news outlets are reposting material from these accounts without question. I guess the content is too good to check.” https://open.substack.com/pub/michaelsmith/p/the-bots-are-back-in-town?r=jf6p8&utm_medium=ios
The editors at the Free Press don't seem to know much about the Immigration issue. For them it's good v evil, whereas most folks think in terms of lawful v illegal. And how could they set up an article saying these are the two best informed or some such nonsense and not include Douglas Murray. Christopher Caldwell has done an excellent job. You needed Murray.
"All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected, but in every place in this country are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The jobs they hold may otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public services they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. We are a nation of immigrants, but we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must do more to stop it!"
I heard her on Megyn Kelly over the summer. I respected her positions. I disagreed with some of them but she was able to articulate her stance intelligently. I am not a fan of how she handled the most recent situation. Especially going on CNN and The View to bitch. I will not really miss her.
I thought she started off ok. I liked some of her stances, disliked others. Right now, I am rather pissed off because it looks like she stayed just long enough to get that lifetime paycheck - and she certainly hasn't done *anything* to warrant that.
"because it looks like she stayed just long enough to get that lifetime paycheck - and she certainly hasn't done *anything* to warrant that."
She's hardly the first congress-critter to get a lifetime paycheck for doing nothing. Except, of course, voting to give themselves lifetime paychecks ...
Agree with RSL. This is a completely misleading lead story. Those of us who are conservative do NOT oppose immigration. What we oppose is ILLEGAL immigration. Open borders. Non-citizens voting. Non-citizens getting driver’s licenses. Non-citizens getting SNAP benefits. And, more.
I watched that interview with Trump. Each one conning the other. Trump will give him enough rope and then kill him off. He specializes in that. Think back to his tv show.
Thank G-d the IDF is continuing to rid the world of evil men. The targeted killing of the #2 man of Hezbollah should be a warning to the rest of the terrorists that they could be next.
"the tragic consequences of Biden’s extremely lax border policy" // Those consequences are felt by a population of citizens who are forced to foot the bills for healthcare, education, living expenses and housing costs for the millions of migrant pobrecitos whose "daily lives have been upended" by our proper attempts to enforce some laws which the Biden politburo saw fit to transgress. Note the quacking of some Federal district judges who are singlemindedly fighting to establish those transgressions as The Law, by citing distorted interpretations of any other laws they can find to reinforce said transgressions. This cannot stand. If we're to be governed by the rule of law, let it be ALL the laws, including those selected by cynical Executives to ignore.
Charlie Kirk is right: Kids should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. We need more humans on this earth who are committed to building western civilization.
Give Mamdani a break. No New York jew has anything to fear from Mamdani. Just read or listen to his further explanations of the comments you find so alarming. Even journalists at The Free Press are allowed to issue "further clarifications" when people express consternation over the opening gambit.
Really?
So Bibi has nothing to fear if he travels to the UN?
So the antisemites harassing Jews in front of their synagogue in NYC will be prevented from doing so under Mamdani’s reign?
You’re sarcastic right?
Bibi has nothing to fear going to the U.N. and peaceful protests will be allowed.
What’s your definition of a “ peaceful” protest?
Harassing Jews in front of their synagogue?
Harassing anyone in front of their house of worship is peaceful.
How so?
Please explain Clarence
No thanks. You're being argumentative. Google it.
The issue of our age is the war on the patriarchy -- aka the society that privileged motherhood. When Hillary was interviewed after the 2024 election, she put the election squarely in the context of "we aren't going back" to motherhood -- those immigrants can have those babies. Throwing open the border (and no doubt encouraging and facilitating immigrants to get to the border) made no sense outside of nihilistic chaos but, hey, the vaunted patriarchal society needed to be destroyed once and for all. No good options now in cleaning up the mess. And a lot of people (especially poor immigrants who were really just pawns) are hurt profoundly by the chaos.
For what? The data?
I already have that.
If Immigration is the issue of our age, maybe it would be helpful to look at some historical context and facts rather than who can currently make the most noise about it for political points:
Border Encounters:
2017-2020: 1,979,000
2021-2024: 7,471,000 (+370%)
Bill Clinton, 1995 State of the Union:
"All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected, but in every place in this country are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The jobs they hold may otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public services they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. . We are a nation of immigrants, but we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must do more to stop it!"
Barbara Jordan, Civil rights leader, U.S. Commission on Immigration Reform (1993 under Clinton), Democrat Representative:
"Credibility in immigration policy can be summed up in one sentence: those who should get in, get in; those who should be kept out, are kept out; and those who should not be here will be required to leave." "We must, we must control illegal immigration before it erodes our first commitment to legal immigration in the national interest. We have concluded that a properly regulated, legal immigration system is in the national interest. We support the basic framework of current policy, but I said 'properly regulated', and I mean that. Immigration is not a right guaranteed by the U.S. constitution guaranteed to everyone, anywhere in the world who thinks they want to come to the United States. Immigration is a privilege!"
2015 Bernie Sanders claiming the Koch brothers favored mass illegal immigration: "What I think they are interested in, is seeing a process by which we can bring low wage labor of all levels into this country, to depress wages in America."
12/4/2014, ACLU: The Ones Obama Left Behind - And Deported Without a Chance to Be Heard
"Each year, over 363, 279 - 83 percent - of deportations from the United States are ordered by immigration officers, NOT judges. Those deported in 'summary removal' processes do NOT get a hearing or a chance to present evidence, or call a lawyer, or even say goodbye to their families before they are banished, sometimes for life."
4/7/2014, TIME: Most Immigrants Deported Under Obama Had Thin or NO Criminal Record
"Two-thirds of immigrants deported from the U.S. since 2008 committed minor traffic violations or had NO criminal record at all despite Obama's promise that his administration was targeting immigrants who were threats to the community."
3/21/2014 ACLU: Three Ways We Got to 2 Million (3.1 million total for 8 Obama years)
"In its first five years, the Obama Administration has deported about twice as many people as the Bush Administration did in the same period - all while the number of immigration judges has remained virtually stagnant and border apprehensions are at an all-time low." "The reality is that this Administration has increasingly relied on methods, such as expedited removal and reinstatements of old decisions."
1/4/2016: Obama Administration Kicks Off Family Deportation Raids
“The Obama administration confirmed Monday that it began a new wave of arrests of Central American immigrant families over the weekend, moving forward with deportations of mothers and children despite an outcry from immigrant rights groups and potential political fallout for Democrats.”
7/10/2010: New York Times: Illegal Workers Swept From Jobs in 'Silent'Raids'
2024, Batya Ungar-Sargon, author: Second Class - How the Elites Betrayed America's Working Men and Women
After traveling the country talking to working class folks for her book she writes:
"Working-class Americans across the political spectrum felt strongly that mass immigration had contributed to lower wages for their work, worse conditions, and stiffer competition in general for lower-income people".
Is it coincidence that as the Democrats started to change their stance to a more favorable position on illegal immigration that working class voters started shifting to the right?
In your discussion of immigration, you use the word “migrants” without ever dealing with the concept of legality. Too bad you chose to go with the trope that we are all immigrants instead of specifically commenting on the legal versus illegal immigration or perhaps legal or illegal migrants.
Immigration: Raise your hand if you "dislike" immigrants. Well you "dislike" yourself. As said by so many we're a nation of immigrants. Whether your ancestors arrived on the Mayflower, are descendants of Hessians or fled religious persecution or famine makes little difference. My father & grandparents immigrated from Ukraine (Not the Ukraine we know today). They couldn't speak a word of english, but they learned. That fact alone is of paramount importance. At home they spoke yiddish but outside it was English. For my grandparents it was never Kings English but I had no difficulty understanding them. My father's English was impeccable. Some of my neighbors spoke Greek or Italian in the home but outside it was always English.
It was a warm, beautiful, early April day in D.C.; The front door to my grandparent's home was open letting in the Sun. I was in the foyer & looked up. "Mom, grandma why are you crying?" "The President is dead". They weren't crying because they were immigrants from Ukraine but they were Americans & their President had died. They didn't "peacefully" protest in the streets, carrying the Stars & Bars screaming "Lynch the Blacks & send them back to Africa"!
The answer is assimilation. They celebrated Thanksgiving. They learned to appreciate the vote & most importantly the Constitution.
I took Spanish in college & it's far more beautiful than German. Do we as Americans wish to become a Canada where half the population speaks English & the other half are mandated to speak French?
The Obuma, Biden, Giggles the Dolt Syndicate permitted million to enter the country, unvetted. I'm certain that many "illegals" are decent, human beings who only wish a better life. However some are thugs or mental disturbed & others harbor an evil, hateful ideology. It's been estimated that there may be up to several hundred thousand unvetted children who may be in harms way.
Do you wish an open immigration policy, Well OK? But let's be certain whom we're permitting to enter. Hitlers' & Stalins' need not apply! It's too dangerous.
I do not dislike legal immigrants, but think it is rather stupid of the US to not be more selective of the immigrants it accepts. Government should ensure that immigrants have the education and skills to be self-supporting, productive members of society.
Unfortunately that isn't the case and a Pew Research Report a few years back said that 50 to 70 percent of LEGAL immigrant families, with the percentage depending on family make-up, were receiving some form of welfare.
A final thought on Ukraine: millions dead, cities destroyed, quality of life diminished and Zelensky, who’s not in the driver’s seat, wants to continue on our treasure when he could lose the whole country? Any country involved with the Clintons and Bidens must be corrupt.
Before TFP prints publishes another article about bad actors on the right, check your sources! “Ironically, progressives spent years insisting that the gravest threat to political discourse came from Russian bots boosting Trump. Now many of the most toxic voices inside the right-wing ecosystem turn out to be foreign operatives promoting narratives—anti-Israel, anti-interventionist, anti-Western—that large segments of the left quietly share. The Macedonian teenagers have been replaced by something far more professional and, judging from the immediate self-deletions of exposed accounts, far better resourced - and major news outlets are reposting material from these accounts without question. I guess the content is too good to check.” https://open.substack.com/pub/michaelsmith/p/the-bots-are-back-in-town?r=jf6p8&utm_medium=ios
The editors at the Free Press don't seem to know much about the Immigration issue. For them it's good v evil, whereas most folks think in terms of lawful v illegal. And how could they set up an article saying these are the two best informed or some such nonsense and not include Douglas Murray. Christopher Caldwell has done an excellent job. You needed Murray.
Bill Clinton, 1995 State of the Union:
"All Americans, not only in the states most heavily affected, but in every place in this country are rightly disturbed by the large numbers of illegal aliens entering our country. The jobs they hold may otherwise be held by citizens or legal immigrants. The public services they use impose burdens on our taxpayers. We are a nation of immigrants, but we are also a nation of laws. It is wrong and ultimately self-defeating for a nation of immigrants to permit the kind of abuse of our immigration laws we have seen in recent years and we must do more to stop it!"
I'd like to hear everyone's opinion of Margorie Taylor Green
The AOC of the right, equally as vapid.
I heard her on Megyn Kelly over the summer. I respected her positions. I disagreed with some of them but she was able to articulate her stance intelligently. I am not a fan of how she handled the most recent situation. Especially going on CNN and The View to bitch. I will not really miss her.
I thought she started off ok. I liked some of her stances, disliked others. Right now, I am rather pissed off because it looks like she stayed just long enough to get that lifetime paycheck - and she certainly hasn't done *anything* to warrant that.
"because it looks like she stayed just long enough to get that lifetime paycheck - and she certainly hasn't done *anything* to warrant that."
She's hardly the first congress-critter to get a lifetime paycheck for doing nothing. Except, of course, voting to give themselves lifetime paychecks ...
Agree with RSL. This is a completely misleading lead story. Those of us who are conservative do NOT oppose immigration. What we oppose is ILLEGAL immigration. Open borders. Non-citizens voting. Non-citizens getting driver’s licenses. Non-citizens getting SNAP benefits. And, more.
This is what we opposed.
Can Mamdani be deported on grounds of insanity & inhumanity to a Muslim country of his choosing; his father can accompany him as a valet?
I watched that interview with Trump. Each one conning the other. Trump will give him enough rope and then kill him off. He specializes in that. Think back to his tv show.
Thank G-d the IDF is continuing to rid the world of evil men. The targeted killing of the #2 man of Hezbollah should be a warning to the rest of the terrorists that they could be next.
Those Hamas leaders living the good life in Qatar had best have a deep hole to disappear into, and soon.
"Trump’s crackdown has upended the daily lives of migrants (aka lawbreakers cheating the system) across the country." FIXED IT!
"the tragic consequences of Biden’s extremely lax border policy" // Those consequences are felt by a population of citizens who are forced to foot the bills for healthcare, education, living expenses and housing costs for the millions of migrant pobrecitos whose "daily lives have been upended" by our proper attempts to enforce some laws which the Biden politburo saw fit to transgress. Note the quacking of some Federal district judges who are singlemindedly fighting to establish those transgressions as The Law, by citing distorted interpretations of any other laws they can find to reinforce said transgressions. This cannot stand. If we're to be governed by the rule of law, let it be ALL the laws, including those selected by cynical Executives to ignore.
Demography, and not immigration, is the “issue of our age.” Immigration is driven by many factors, but at root it follows demographic decline.
Charlie Kirk is right: Kids should get married as young as possible and have as many kids as possible. We need more humans on this earth who are committed to building western civilization.