I think you “hit the nail on the head” in the 4th paragraph of the introduction. There are a lot of people (mostly young based on the recent poll cited in TGIF this morning) who simply do not care about facts or truth about Hamas and what they did in October.
I want them to know this Irish Catholic girl hears them. I will never forget. This was an unspeakable cruelty. Perpetrated by evil people. I pray you can remind these kids often what great parents they had. God bless you all.
This is just one of many stories about Oct 7th. Incredulously, there are people who don't think Hamas were the perpetrators. That Israel is to blame for these atrocities. The world is in shambles. Right is wrong and Good is Evil. Sick. I feel for the babies who lost their parents in this bloody massacre. I hope they can be raised by their Aunt and Uncle and live a normal life. But, this is what the Hamas-Nazi's want to do. Get into the minds of the innocent. I read where one hostage who was released can't even speak. She has to whisper for fear of being shot or worse, raped. This is a black mark on civilization and, unfortunately, all the world cares about are the Gazan civilians. I hope and pray that someday soon we can have peace in the world. We desperately need it.
One day we will look back on the indifference and outright hostility of the woke elite to accepting the truth of what happened on October 7 and realize it was a turning point for civilized society.
There are some days when I really can’t intellectually comprehend how little people care about the death of these people, or of Jews. The naked anti-Semitism, the utter illogical passion these clowns display in their embrace of Hamas is unfathomable.
While there are always "words" that can be spoken, those words must be carefully crafted to match the event under consideration. I am unsure there will ever be an adequate description to capture the pure "evil" that descended on the families of these two babies. Moving forward, they will need every bit of love, compassion, and honesty that is available to try to put the lives of their parents into some kind of heroic perspective. Thank you Bari for the way you have shared the story.
Yes, the common person in Gaza doesn't want missiles threatening him/her. But he/she likewise doesn't want Jews living in Israel, or for that matter probably anywhere else in the world. These are people warped by generations of Islamic hatred. It's a gargantuan error to project our values onto them.
It is impossible for me to "like" this interview. There are some feelings that are just utterly ineffable -- I simply have no words. None. Just utter heartbreak.
Heartbreaking. Such a beautiful couple. I suppose the "p's of s" we see demonstrating in our own streets will conjure up some justification for their murder. I am at the point, however, where it better not be within earshot of me. I am no longer in the mood to be "nice."
Every day since October 7 my heart has burned with anger for what was done to Israeli innocents, especially children. I am a former Christian pastor, Ph.D in New Testament studies, now an agnostic. Yet how can any sane individual not accept the counsel of Jesus when he said "Woe unto those who damage children, it is better that a mill stone be strung around their neck." Shalom to our Jewish brother's and sisters.
If I had the misfortune of being born in a gigantic trailer park of 2 million white people outside of New Orleans and it was run by the Tiki Torch guys from Charlottesville and they went into New Orleans and set a bunch of Black women on fire and then New Orleans started bombing the trailer park I would not be happy and I would be scared of dying from the bombs.
However, I would have zero anger towards New Orleans in that scenario because that would make me a scumbag.
Please keep doing these articles. I see people denying this happened, and people I used to respect minimizing what happened. The articles make me cry but the truth needs to be put out there.
This feels like it might be a grossly misplaced comment, but I don’t have anywhere else to put what just happened. As your average 40 odd year old guy from the midwest, when I have some feelings, I need to put them someplace when the tank gets full or it will kill me. So hardly shocking to most I assume, I am doing this for me, ultimately. But maybe someone out there? I feel like there are more of me out there these days, but not sure they hang out in the comments section of thefp. Maybe someone who knows someone? Anyways.
All of this, every stitch of what has happened since the 7th has been building up on me for a while now. I have zero folks to even start to air some of this out to. Given where I live, and who my friends and family are, it would go sideways either on my end or theirs. Or worse there would be a shrug and the conversation would move on.
I sat down to read this since I knew listening to it would essentially be a non-starter for me mentally / emotionally. The text of it takes the edge off some of the feelings, even if only a little bit. I know I NEED to know about this, but I am just attempting to keep out of the red these days when it comes to my emotions. Up to the edge usually, but not in the red.
As I was reading I was listening to an album I have heard so many times that I know every word of every song, in the order that they appear in the album. I love this album and have loved this album for like 20 odd years. I love music in general, it has always served as a device to alter my mood. Usually for drawing and the like, but sometimes just to feel an unfamiliar thing. I am not however a music person. I almost never know what the name of the band is, or who is in it, or what the lore is around things etc. I don’t own any band shirts, and I can not tell you what genre almost anything fits into. But like most people if I hear something often enough I will know the words. Maybe that is from being a Bob Dylan fan growing up. Either way, if nothing else one would think if you knew the words you might have some inkling of what the song was about. Seems reasonable, but I guess if you don’t have a context or setting of something like a show these are just noises a person makes while playing an instrument. I don’t do shows, but that is a whole other kettle of fish.
The album is called “In the aeroplane over the sea” by an oddly named band called Neutral Milk Hotel. It is the only album of theirs I think I have ever heard, but I have intentionally listened to it probably 100 plus times. You can hear it here if you are unaware fwiw: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mQBJ39Z_w-YatJZBF14MSQ-Sj-8FF0lH0
So I am somewhere in the middle of the interview when the song “Oh Comely” starts playing. I have always had a soft spot for this song. I love the melody of it, the kind of tortured voice of it, and as far as the lyrics they always seemed a bit, idk profane? There was something in there that I felt like “best not to drill into it”. About 5 or so minutes into the song I notice I am not really reading anymore. I am just staring at the picture on screen. My face is wet and it's hard to swallow. Idk what got there first, the interview or the song. But either way, it wasn’t subtle about it.
So, long story longer, turns out the whole album was inspired by the artist reading “the diary of a young girl” and somehow I never made the connection. Given I am not Jewish, and was raised in trailers and shacks, but after 20 years, and 100 visits to this album I never made that connection. It all seems so on the nose for me to write this comment (essay at this point) especially here. Like I am some guy that just figured out art has meaning. But well I will take the feeling of being idiot over having this experience running laps in my head unobserved for the foreseeable. As always, remarkable work in the interview Bari, and I have no words to offer Maya and Dvir save other than I am so sorry, and thankful there was some trickle of light that managed to evade the dark. I guess that’s it.
The last bit, on hope for the future, Maya "wants to believe" that the "common people" of Gaza are just like her, wants peace, just wants to live and provide for their family.
That is amazing to me, and I don't mean that in any kind of positive sense. What possible evidence does she have for that belief?
Maybe I need to focus in on her *wanting* to believe that, suggesting that she doesn't actually believe it. Still, wanting to believe in the absence of any reason to do so and indeed with all evidence pointing to the opposite conclusion... that makes her a fool. Good-hearted and dealing with tragedy as best she can, better than most could do I suspect, but still... a fool.
I pray for this family and for those babies. This also reinforces Israel needs to destroy every last one of these monsters.
I think you “hit the nail on the head” in the 4th paragraph of the introduction. There are a lot of people (mostly young based on the recent poll cited in TGIF this morning) who simply do not care about facts or truth about Hamas and what they did in October.
I want them to know this Irish Catholic girl hears them. I will never forget. This was an unspeakable cruelty. Perpetrated by evil people. I pray you can remind these kids often what great parents they had. God bless you all.
This is just one of many stories about Oct 7th. Incredulously, there are people who don't think Hamas were the perpetrators. That Israel is to blame for these atrocities. The world is in shambles. Right is wrong and Good is Evil. Sick. I feel for the babies who lost their parents in this bloody massacre. I hope they can be raised by their Aunt and Uncle and live a normal life. But, this is what the Hamas-Nazi's want to do. Get into the minds of the innocent. I read where one hostage who was released can't even speak. She has to whisper for fear of being shot or worse, raped. This is a black mark on civilization and, unfortunately, all the world cares about are the Gazan civilians. I hope and pray that someday soon we can have peace in the world. We desperately need it.
One day we will look back on the indifference and outright hostility of the woke elite to accepting the truth of what happened on October 7 and realize it was a turning point for civilized society.
There are some days when I really can’t intellectually comprehend how little people care about the death of these people, or of Jews. The naked anti-Semitism, the utter illogical passion these clowns display in their embrace of Hamas is unfathomable.
Devastating story. Thank you for this interview.
While there are always "words" that can be spoken, those words must be carefully crafted to match the event under consideration. I am unsure there will ever be an adequate description to capture the pure "evil" that descended on the families of these two babies. Moving forward, they will need every bit of love, compassion, and honesty that is available to try to put the lives of their parents into some kind of heroic perspective. Thank you Bari for the way you have shared the story.
Yes, the common person in Gaza doesn't want missiles threatening him/her. But he/she likewise doesn't want Jews living in Israel, or for that matter probably anywhere else in the world. These are people warped by generations of Islamic hatred. It's a gargantuan error to project our values onto them.
It is impossible for me to "like" this interview. There are some feelings that are just utterly ineffable -- I simply have no words. None. Just utter heartbreak.
Heartbreaking. Such a beautiful couple. I suppose the "p's of s" we see demonstrating in our own streets will conjure up some justification for their murder. I am at the point, however, where it better not be within earshot of me. I am no longer in the mood to be "nice."
Every day since October 7 my heart has burned with anger for what was done to Israeli innocents, especially children. I am a former Christian pastor, Ph.D in New Testament studies, now an agnostic. Yet how can any sane individual not accept the counsel of Jesus when he said "Woe unto those who damage children, it is better that a mill stone be strung around their neck." Shalom to our Jewish brother's and sisters.
If I had the misfortune of being born in a gigantic trailer park of 2 million white people outside of New Orleans and it was run by the Tiki Torch guys from Charlottesville and they went into New Orleans and set a bunch of Black women on fire and then New Orleans started bombing the trailer park I would not be happy and I would be scared of dying from the bombs.
However, I would have zero anger towards New Orleans in that scenario because that would make me a scumbag.
Get a rifle. Learn how to use it.
You owe it to your children.
Please keep doing these articles. I see people denying this happened, and people I used to respect minimizing what happened. The articles make me cry but the truth needs to be put out there.
This feels like it might be a grossly misplaced comment, but I don’t have anywhere else to put what just happened. As your average 40 odd year old guy from the midwest, when I have some feelings, I need to put them someplace when the tank gets full or it will kill me. So hardly shocking to most I assume, I am doing this for me, ultimately. But maybe someone out there? I feel like there are more of me out there these days, but not sure they hang out in the comments section of thefp. Maybe someone who knows someone? Anyways.
All of this, every stitch of what has happened since the 7th has been building up on me for a while now. I have zero folks to even start to air some of this out to. Given where I live, and who my friends and family are, it would go sideways either on my end or theirs. Or worse there would be a shrug and the conversation would move on.
I sat down to read this since I knew listening to it would essentially be a non-starter for me mentally / emotionally. The text of it takes the edge off some of the feelings, even if only a little bit. I know I NEED to know about this, but I am just attempting to keep out of the red these days when it comes to my emotions. Up to the edge usually, but not in the red.
As I was reading I was listening to an album I have heard so many times that I know every word of every song, in the order that they appear in the album. I love this album and have loved this album for like 20 odd years. I love music in general, it has always served as a device to alter my mood. Usually for drawing and the like, but sometimes just to feel an unfamiliar thing. I am not however a music person. I almost never know what the name of the band is, or who is in it, or what the lore is around things etc. I don’t own any band shirts, and I can not tell you what genre almost anything fits into. But like most people if I hear something often enough I will know the words. Maybe that is from being a Bob Dylan fan growing up. Either way, if nothing else one would think if you knew the words you might have some inkling of what the song was about. Seems reasonable, but I guess if you don’t have a context or setting of something like a show these are just noises a person makes while playing an instrument. I don’t do shows, but that is a whole other kettle of fish.
The album is called “In the aeroplane over the sea” by an oddly named band called Neutral Milk Hotel. It is the only album of theirs I think I have ever heard, but I have intentionally listened to it probably 100 plus times. You can hear it here if you are unaware fwiw: https://music.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mQBJ39Z_w-YatJZBF14MSQ-Sj-8FF0lH0
So I am somewhere in the middle of the interview when the song “Oh Comely” starts playing. I have always had a soft spot for this song. I love the melody of it, the kind of tortured voice of it, and as far as the lyrics they always seemed a bit, idk profane? There was something in there that I felt like “best not to drill into it”. About 5 or so minutes into the song I notice I am not really reading anymore. I am just staring at the picture on screen. My face is wet and it's hard to swallow. Idk what got there first, the interview or the song. But either way, it wasn’t subtle about it.
So, long story longer, turns out the whole album was inspired by the artist reading “the diary of a young girl” and somehow I never made the connection. Given I am not Jewish, and was raised in trailers and shacks, but after 20 years, and 100 visits to this album I never made that connection. It all seems so on the nose for me to write this comment (essay at this point) especially here. Like I am some guy that just figured out art has meaning. But well I will take the feeling of being idiot over having this experience running laps in my head unobserved for the foreseeable. As always, remarkable work in the interview Bari, and I have no words to offer Maya and Dvir save other than I am so sorry, and thankful there was some trickle of light that managed to evade the dark. I guess that’s it.
The last bit, on hope for the future, Maya "wants to believe" that the "common people" of Gaza are just like her, wants peace, just wants to live and provide for their family.
That is amazing to me, and I don't mean that in any kind of positive sense. What possible evidence does she have for that belief?
Maybe I need to focus in on her *wanting* to believe that, suggesting that she doesn't actually believe it. Still, wanting to believe in the absence of any reason to do so and indeed with all evidence pointing to the opposite conclusion... that makes her a fool. Good-hearted and dealing with tragedy as best she can, better than most could do I suspect, but still... a fool.