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Mike Meisel's avatar

Bad idea. But who is “hiding” the fact Qatar’s giving the plane to the DoD (not to DJT) ? Currently the 2 AF-1s are 40 years old and Boeing is slow in delivering a replacement. Still a bad idea.

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Gary S.'s avatar

Acceptance of a possible foreign aid donation from Qatar does imply that Donald Trump's unqualified support of Israel will decrease.

The USA also accepted foreign assistance from Canada during recent wildfires in Los Angeles. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/quebec-british-columbia-wildfires-los-angeles-1.7426060

The Mexican government sent relief during the Hurricane Katrina crisis. https://www.historicalmx.org/items/show/162

Our government has still been moderately obnoxious to both of those governments.

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Arnold Pinsley's avatar

Ground Control to POTUS Trump - ISIS in a suit and tie is still ISIS and he is a front man for the host to Muslim Brotherhood's big player, Turkey. Neither is at all friendly to minorities like Christians, Druze, Kurds, or Jews.

Then there's Qatargate or the palace in the sky that shouldn't be accepted; if it is there should be immediate screams for impeachment.

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Linda Erdmann's avatar

Another good story might be "How Soros Bought America. What does he want?"

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Julie Rhodes's avatar

This Qatar issue has been going on for over 2 decades but today it’s a shocking emergency issue. Spare us the outrage.

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Bob Park's avatar

Trump is reportedly encouraging Saudi Arabia to sign the Abraham Accords. He should do the same with Qatar. If these countries want to stay in the good graces of the US, they should normalize relations with Israel.

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dave colledge's avatar

Evan a crooked Trump is better than the Progressive left .

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DemonHunter's avatar

Nobody has read this headline.

“You’ve already seen the headlines: Qatar just offered Trump a 747 luxury jumbo jet to serve as the next Air Force One.”

What they’ve read is:

Trump Caught Taking Bribe

Trump’s plan to accept jet fuels corruption concerns

Trump Under Fire

Jet from Qatar Sparks Emoluments Uproar.

These are the more current and toned down headlines.

The first headlines and articles, such as the article TFP recently posted alleged a private gift that Trump would take with him after leaving office.

This is another example of spiraling integrity here.

TFP has ignored the fact that the previous article could have been written by The Onion.

TFP needs to retract that article and pleas for forgiveness.

That or just slap NYT on your masthead to better identify your page.

So disappointed in TFP. It started by telling the truth. Now, sadly, it is hard to distinguish you guys from a tabloid.

🙁

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Silence's avatar

It is extremely obvious that is is a bribe aimed at Trump. It is ludicrously obvious. I would think less of them if they didn't just report what is happening and instead tried to white-wash it.

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DemonHunter's avatar

Perhaps first, the bullshit on this subject makes it clear to me that accepting the Jet is just not worth the noise. But that doesn’t mean all the allegations of all kinds make any sense.

If it is obvious tell me what the Al Thani family gets in return?

This is a newer 747 than the current AF1 747s (two of them) which are 40 years old.

Replacement planes were authorized during the Obama administration but still have not been delivered.

What does Trump get from this? He get to have one of the two AF1 747s to be an upgrade. That’s it.

What about Trump taking it with him when he leaves office?

When he leaves office the 747 becomes part of his presidential library.

So, that means he gets to keep the jet, right?

No, it will be transferred from the DoD to the presidential library which is under the control of the Smithsonian and managed by the National Archives. Trump doesn’t get any control over the jet at all.

So, again, what is the extra Trump is getting? A jet upgrade, maybe. How is this an obvious bribe? What is he giving the Al Thanis?

And why would such a bribe be done publicly?

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MMP's avatar

What does Qatar want? Islamic influence around the world which is why they have infiltrated the very organizations that have been mentioned. Also, The United States has not accepted this plane. The arguments continue as if Trump flew to Qatar on that plane this week. Why are we arguing so much about something that hasn't happened. It's like Canada as the 51st state. Has that happened? Trump trolls. He loves to do it. Could be he is doing it now as well.

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Silence's avatar

Because Trump stated he would accept it. Like actively was surprised when people got angry about it.

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MMP's avatar

He also told Carney "never say never" after Carney stated Canada would never be the 51st state.

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Silence's avatar

The levels of magnitude between those items changes things. Him taking a plane bribe is an entirely different category then threatening to take over a sovereign nation. And after all he has done there is no actual clue what he will do. Many people thought he wasn't serious about the tariff stuff because it was so self-destructive. Then he did it.

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frank tarascio's avatar

"Qatar just offered Trump a 747 luxury jumbo jet to serve as the next Air Force One."

- No. Offered to US and to be part of Trump Library, administered by US Archives. Still, it stinks. Colleges, politicians, corporations, bought by money. Realpolitik.

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Silence's avatar

Trump needs to be added to that list of being bought with this, it is semantics. At this point would we sign Joe Biden is not getting anything out of deals that only directly benefited Hunter?

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DemonHunter's avatar

Agreed that their spending, especially at unis, to shape public opinion is disturbing.. multiple more than some 747

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stephen p schaffer's avatar

Another possible benefit to Qatar from the continuing Billions it hands out - our increasing National Debt which is setting the U.S. up with a tin cup.

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Prescribing Naps's avatar

Wild to see how fast the Trump Sycophants have shifted defending Islamists that endorse literal slavery and harbor and protect terrorists. Anything Dear Leader says is good I guess.

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DemonHunter's avatar

Huh, you missed the authors note about the Al Thani family spending $115,000 on lobbying fees to fight human trafficking?

Small Arab absolutist monarchies are no place to find an even acceptable human rights record, agreed.

But the topic isn’t about Qatari human rights, it is about their influence through donations here in the US.

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frank tarascio's avatar

No all of us are sycophants. This stinks.

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Prescribing Naps's avatar

I appreciate you saying that. When you look at all the MAGA comments here that are doing exactly what I said, do you feel embarrassed by this? Does it cause you to pause and reflect on how Trump supporters do often behave as if their in a cult, and by extension cause you to reflect on positions you may have changed not as a result of your own underlying principles, but because Trump endorses it or Democrats opposed it?

I would have classically been called a Republican, but not since 2016 because Trump represents absolutely none of my values. He is a man of incredibly low moral value, he does not suppoet a balanced budget, he does not comport himself with the dignity the office demands, he is a bully who loves to degrade those around him and is intentionally and needlessly inflammatory even when it costs him something that would be a conservative victory (see Canada and his unexplainable pride that he destroyed the Canadian conservative victory). I was unwilling to compromise my principles that character matters, rule of law and process matter, the budget matters. Yet people who I agreed with less than 10 years ago are advocating for things they never would have before (and were advocating against when Biden was president) with the only real changing factor being Trump wants it now.

I wrote the above to ask if seeing this has caused you to evaluate what you believed before 2016 and now and how it's changed and, if it's changed, how much Trump drove that change?

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JAE's avatar

Trump is “The Man In The Arena” (Teddy Roosevelt). You’re entitled to criticize all you want, and you certainly have. But you’re not the one shaking up the fetid Establishment in Washington DC and wrestling with every corrupt institution and hard issue we are facing. Nor are you risking your previously very comfortable life to do so. Trump is. So carp all you want, that’s your prerogative. Just know it sounds just a little too sanctimonious to some of us.

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frank tarascio's avatar

First, I meant to write NOT all of us are sycophants... Damn proof reading!

Do not let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Or in this case don't expect the perfect president.

Trump opened my eyes to the corruption of the DC establishment, both parties.

He has faults, which you highlighted. But good points as well: anti-trans, anti-DEI, holding elite universities accountable for anti-semitism, immigration policies, etc.

At this time in the US, he's the right man for the job.

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Prescribing Naps's avatar

OK, so this is how I know you're a sycophant.

This is bad. Embracing islamofundamentalists because they give you money and a shiny new plane is bad. This is something conservatives understood until Trump was president. But you're incapable of criticizing Dear Leader because you're in a cult. You accept behavior from Trump that you would NEVER accept from someone else because he is Dear Leader; this is textbook sycophantism.

Two things can be true. This can be bad. Trump could have been better than the alternative. But another thing can be true too. Trump could be better. He just isn't because no one is willing to hold him accountable for anything at all. This is the same behavior that the Left engaged in and caused them to drive off a cliff. Just so busy hating Trump they didn't bother looking where they were going, only back. You're just so busy hating the Left (literally the list of good things you listed about trump is he hates the right things, things leftists like) you're not bother looking where your going, only back, and its going to destroy the conservative movement because you cant bother to even criticize Trump for obviously bad things.

I wonder if my own wife would make as many excuses for me as you do for Trump.

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Horatius Dumpp's avatar

Whoa - pace yourself. I think maybe it is you who needs the nap.

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Prescribing Naps's avatar

I routinely self prescribe naps.

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frank tarascio's avatar

I try to discuss reasonably. In that context, I'm done.

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Prescribing Naps's avatar

A sycophant can bear no criticism. No surprise there. Continue worshping your Dear Leader.

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frank tarascio's avatar

I try to discuss reasonably. In that context, I'm done.

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steven t koenig's avatar

"Trump supporters do often behave as if their in a cult,"

Kinda like the good old days of "White dudes for Harris", eh?

I'll stipulate that Trump is kind of a dirt-bag. Now will you admit that Biden sure as hell wasn't clean? That Pelosi has gotten so rich honestly?

None of them are very honorable, except maybe Rand Paul. I didn't send Trump to the White House to audition for sainthood. I sent him to take a wrecking ball to our entire putrid federal government

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Prescribing Naps's avatar

This actually dignifies a further response I think. Normally when someone dismisses an argument as a "what aboutism" I don't think too much of it because calling out hypocrisy matters, but you really highlighted something with about the way Trump supporters just turn off their moral compass when it comes to criticizing him.

" Now will you admit that Biden sure as hell wasn't clean? That Pelosi has gotten so rich honestly?"

Obviously there was significant corruption there is absolutely no doubt in my mind that it happened. Here's the thing. The way Trump Sycophats are excusing his overt blatant corruption while losing their mind over the "Biden Crime Family" is why I call them sycophants. There is no consistency or principles on display. Just rank worship of Dear Leader, He May Do No Wrong.

The current president is actively engaged in not one but two crypto scams. The Melania coin might be actual fraud because the Trump Foundation was selling it to select well connected people BEFORE they announced it (https://nypost.com/2025/05/06/business/crypto-traders-who-bought-melania-trump-coin-before-launch-bagged-100m-report/). The current Trump administration is selling direct access to the president if you buy enough of Trump coin, which directly enriches him. Erik Trump started a elite membership club called the Executive Branch (not even hiding it) with membership starting at 500,000k. Where's the calls to investigate the "Trump Crime Family." Not only are these examples more outright egregious, the scale is actually an order of magnitude higher based on the amount of money involved. But again, the Sycophants as silent, because Dear Leader, He May Do No Wrong.

Here's why this matters. Its going to make conservatives lose. This matters to me because the literal only political position that matters to me is balancing the budget and I know the only hope for that is with Republicans (Except Trump, both history and his current actions show he isn't actually interested in a balanced budget). However the more conservatives act like they're in a cult, the more people will forgive the Left for doing the same thing. It is literally no different that the Left being unable to criticize the woke excesses that drove them from power. If conservatives can't criticize Trump enough for him to check his dumbest and most selfish impulses we are headed to absolute financial collapse.

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steven t koenig's avatar

Dude, until you get over your obsession with calling anyone you don't agree with a "cult", nobody is gonna take you seriously.

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Horatius Dumpp's avatar

Steven, I think this person needs a nap. These long, boring posts seem like the work of a sleep-deprived frantic with too much time on their hands.

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steven t koenig's avatar

I suspect is has more to do with Xanax and estrogen than anything else. I don't read it all, but I admire her typing skills

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Horatius Dumpp's avatar

Sigh. Changing the world - one run-on paragraph at a time. LOL

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Prescribing Naps's avatar

I've just decided to adopt the language of MAGA. Until I stop seeing TDS used to dismiss criticism Ill go with call them a sycophantic cult.

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Horatius Dumpp's avatar

It could be Long-BDS, now mutated into this virulent thing called TDS.

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Prescribing Naps's avatar

"Kinda like the good old days of "White dudes for Harris", eh?"

Yea. That's bad. The fact that you know its bad but seem totally fine with it because its your team doing it is why I think you're in a cult.

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steven t koenig's avatar

I don't have a team. I just want someone to do something about that pesky $38 trillion. And the minute we hire somebody to do that your team seems to scream "Fascist". So that team is not for me

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Horatius Dumpp's avatar

"I just want someone to do something about that pesky $38 trillion."

Me too. I have 38 trillion reasons to cling to hope with this new administration.

Amazing how TDS can make otherwise intelligent, sane people automatically reject any kind of good news just because it came from the DJT administration.

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Frank Lee's avatar

There is a profound pile of cognitive dissonance in the meager minds of uniparty lovers that support everything liberal global new world order, but then scream about ELLECTION INTERFERENCE FROM RUSSIA, and $700 MILLION JET GIFTS FROM QATAR!

WTF do these cretins expect when they ignore borders and push the concept that there is no real American culture, not real American sovereignty (because, you know, that it nationalist fascism!)?

Either the world is a one-world order where other countries can donate to buy fealty from inside, or there are borders and restrictions the prevent any and all meddling that threatens to upset the balance of national values and norms.

The cognitive dissonance of the cretins is even more glaring when we look at all the commerce and other restrictions within the states.

I would prefer we block Qatar and the CCP from buying influence, but the greed of our elite rent-seeking, gambling and looting class like the cash.

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Class Enemy's avatar

Wow, so Qatar punishes “blasphemy” with only seven years of jail, as opposed to death after a “trial” where the accusations can’t even be mentioned, as in Pakistan. At this rate, just give this Islamist absolute monarchy only a few more centuries and they might even get out of the Middle Ages, who knows. Start by accepting any bribe from them.

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Class Enemy's avatar

There’s nothing more funny than to see how “America first” blowhards defend Trump’s desire to grab Qatar’s “gift” because, you see, how could you possibly get a Boeing airplane in the US? We need to accept charity from medieval islamists, which will keep “America first”. It’s simple logic, right?

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Class Enemy's avatar

Can you even read? I answered your question twice and even asked you what other answer you expected. You must be really “special”.

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Horatius Dumpp's avatar

A $400 million plane, OK. Meanwhile, per this article: $100 BILLION, spent surreptitiously everywhere else in our society. What do you think of that?

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Class Enemy's avatar

So you’re trying to say that since Qatar has already pumped $100 billion worth of corruption in America, Trump should just accept this relatively modest $400 million bribe, because we’re screwed anyway?

See, that’s what is fascinating about the Trump true believers who will defend anything he does or says - there’s no end to the crazy arguments they come up with!

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Horatius Dumpp's avatar

No, that's not what I meant or I would have said that. No need to get all fascinated.

I asked what you think about a long-term, multi-level, surreptitious corruption to the tune of $100 billion?

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Class Enemy's avatar

That’s a really weird question, obviously asked for deflection purposes.

If I hate a $400 million bribe, what do you imagine I think about $100 billion corruption? Is that really so difficult to figure out? The difference is that the latter is surreptitious, as you have yourself stated, while the one that Trump is so keen on accepting is both obviously corrupt and totally insulting to America. It should be a slap in the face for “America first”ers, if they would have any logic other than “Trump is always right”.

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Horatius Dumpp's avatar

The question is not so weird when one considers it is the main subject of this story.

Also, I did not say or infer that "Trump is always right."

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Class Enemy's avatar

Well, if you keep insisting: did you really believe that I disagree with the plane bribe but I like the $100 billion corruption? Wouldn’t that be dumb of you? And if that’s not the case, what exactly was the purpose of your question? What alternative answer did you expect? Do you actually have an answer to that or you’re just asking in order to hear yourself talking?

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Horatius Dumpp's avatar

I didn't insist on anything. I just asked a question.

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Class Enemy's avatar

Yeah, you’ve just Dumpped a question with obvious answer.

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Horatius Dumpp's avatar

So, no answer - OK. This string has gone on long enough. Goodbye.

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James A George's avatar

With all due respect, when may we expect a similar expose on how the Chinese Communist Party attempted to not only buy America but did, in fact, buy a sitting American President and his entire family with little or no notice by the corporate media and with the only meaningful coverage being with the conservative, "new" media and conservative authors and commentators? Thank you.

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Ken Baldauff's avatar

Proof?

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James A George's avatar

There is more than enough proof for a felony indictment of one of the two most corrupt Presidents in American history in Miranda Devine's book Laptop from Hell. See also Blood Money by Peter Schweitzer. There are, of course, other sources to draw upon, more than enough upon which to base an indictment. It is reported that there was sufficient evidence for an indictment of one of the two most corrupt Presidents in American history in the Special Counsel's report on his corrupt activities but they chose not to indict him because he would have come accross to the jury as a "sympathetic, well meaning old man" or words to that effect (which in and of itself struck me as at least bordering on corrupt). Next question?

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Class Enemy's avatar

Sounds like “I don’t want to hear about what my guy did wrong because you didn’t say in the same breath what the other side did wrong”. This is the tribal thinking that drags this country lower and lower.

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James A George's avatar

First, 77.8 million is a pretty large tribe and we voted for President Trump for reasons which are the polar opposite of your statement-we wanted to bring the nation we love back to its former greatness before the Socialist-Marxist demolition squad of Obama-Biden-Harris started their truly diabolical destruction of everything good America stands for. I disagee, most respectfully of course, with your characterization "in the same breath"- I wrote my comment because I do not remember this platform carrying any analyses of the Biden Crime Family and the tens of millions they made off with like bandits. As I am a human being and cannot claim to have read every piece published here I could well have missed one. Perhaps, if that is the case, you could send me a link and I will take a look at it. But one thing is most certainly dragging this country down and that was the spectacle of the out-of-control lawfare waged against the former President of the United States by Biden and his minions for the sole purpose of taking him out as a political opponent. If that is not pure third-world corruption that phrase no longer has any meaning. Enjoy the next 3 3/4 years; it's going to be one of the greatest periods of positive activity in American history! God Bless America!

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Class Enemy's avatar

I also voted for President Trump but I don’t feel at all compelled to not accept a justified criticism just because it doesn’t also mention, yes, in the same breath, what the leftist crooks have done. I repeat that because the FP has never been shy to cover the Joe, Hunter and Co. corruption. Also please in mind that when you ignore that two wrongs don’t make a right, the larger the number of people who agree with you, the more miserable is the fate of this country.

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