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Doug's avatar

J.D. Vance: We had a very, very good day of talks.

Iran: No, we didn't.

This is beginning to sound like the Monty Python argument sketch:

https://youtu.be/evPZ-0UhL1E?si=xDLXQ25mqc9AV3EP

Terry's avatar

I feel sorry for JD, being thrust into this role that he didn’t sign on for. He opposed the Iran war to begin with.

Tilley's avatar

And now he's doing what he's told to do. Welcome to the circus.

Tom Servo's avatar

"Is Britain ungovernable?" - No more so than any other third-world country

Lanny's avatar

"Maybe hope should be a verb."

Kamala Harris

We should all "hope" for that.

😉😉😉😉😉

Steve G's avatar

Well, she does appear to be the current Queen of verbiage.

KARYN TRUITT's avatar

And dem female acquaintances of mine, still castigate me for not voting for her.

Can you imagine this person sitting at a table with Putin? or Zelenskyy? How about Kim Jong Un?? 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

Lanny's avatar

You need a better class of "female acquaintances"

Steve G's avatar

Well, she could probably drink both of them under the table.

Lanny's avatar

Of that I have no doubt.

Lanny's avatar

Maybe "to be " should also be a verb.

Liz LaSorte's avatar

Sun Tzu said, “If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.”

How well do we know the ideology of Iranians and the Shia? Apparently, they will fight to their death and Trump underestimated the fact that Iran has been preparing for an attack for decades – considering they hit us for decades, it would be a natural assumption they would arm themselves.

Now, the illusion of the mighty US has been sullied since this MOU is based on Israel and Hezbollah not attacking each other (unlikely) and the old argument that you can’t negotiate with terrorists.

Trump also anticipated that the Iranians would overthrow their government, but what he missed is that any freedom movement has successful leaders to guide the way. I suspect the mullahs probably killed those people, but, apparently, no one is going to lead the way, and revolution must come from within.

Most of us would love for this MOU to be successful for a lasting, peace in the ME so all of us can thrive trading freely all of our goods that others want. And Trump said it himself; we don’t need Iranian oil (or resources). But, we attacked Iran for what, exactly? Because we are TOLD to be very, very afraid of __________ (fill in the blank). So, we are supposed to worry about Iran having nukes, despite the fact that smaller countries like Pakistan and Israel have nukes and the mutually assured destruction mantra has kept us from nuking each other.

So, what are we going to do when China takes Tawain? The Chinese have made it clear that they believe Taiwan is a part of China. And who is going to control Taiwan who makes 60% of the semiconductors the world needs to run AI?

How about we lick our wounds, focus on American and her many, many problems and stop policing the world? It’s like the mother in the dysfunctional family who volunteers everywhere, but won’t see that her husband is a drunk, causing the family big problems. Let’s fix ourselves first!

Terry's avatar

It’s all about mining the Strait. Had the Trump team spent more than 10 seconds thinking about this contingency, perhaps they would not have started the fight. Just let Israel do its thing.

Lanny's avatar
29mEdited

So messianic madmen screaming Death to America should be allowed to get nukes?

China should be allowed to take Taiwan?

Ukraine should stand alone?

Sudan should be allowed to slaughter Christians?

I could go on but you get the point.

I agree that we cannot be the world's policeman

BUT I also don't believe that we can or should become fortress America.

You pick and choose your battles.

Not all hills are worth dying on.

BUT some are.

Stopping the first item on my list seems pretty important to me.

The other three I'd agree we should not be involved in.

Neocons are nearly as obnoxious as the idiots who like demented sheep bleat..."NO BOOTS ON THE GROUND".

Each conflict has to be considered on its own merits and demerits.

EKB ✡️ 🕎 🇺🇸's avatar

I for one am happy for Ann Hathaway. I hope she has an easy pregnancy and labor.

Some people have too much to say and it always has to just be mean because they are jealous losers and creepy creeps.

Meanwhile, speaking of creepy creeps, our erstwhile VP, JD "Chamberlain" Vance, who has decided that Jews are too "Jewy" to know what is and isn't antisemitism, is apparently the dumbest negotiator on the planet. I know another news outlet (which shall remain nameless) called him the "Hillbilly Obama," but I think that insults Hillbillies. My friend calls herself half-hillbilly (the other half is hispanic) and something tells me when it comes to negotiating with evil people she would not give them the benefit of the doubt like JD seems to be doing with the Iranians. I still want to know why when he was publicly disrespected at the handshake why he simply did not leave. The insult was specific and public. He is so ignorant of that part of the world, he doesn't even know how ignorant he is.

Trump just said there is supposed to be negotiations between Qatar, Pakistan, Lebanon, Hezbollah, Iran, and Israel about Lebanon. Led of cause by Qatar and Pakistan, 2 countries whose stated goal is genocide of Israel and Jews worldwide. And Trump thinks that Israel is going to say sure, we will trust our future to these Islamo-Nazis.

Trump said he controls Bibi and Bibi will do as he says. The man behind the resolute desk really is a psycho.

And now that Starmer is gone how is Burnham going to fix what ails Britain when he doesn't actually like the British people? The bigger question is why after Lowe's expose on the Muslim rape gangs of Britain and how the British elite, CPS, and police turned not only a blind eye, but threatened anyone who tried to stop it, how are the people not hauling out guillotines and burning the parliament down?

MG's avatar

How to turn an article about older mothers into an ugly political screed: "Many conservatives claim they want to save the family, but they want to do it only if they can control every intricate aspect of how it’s built—demanding that women stay at home, breastfeed on command, and skip epidurals." Who are these conservatives? They are mentioned throughout the article, but never by name. What utter trash.

JN64's avatar

It would not be TheFP if the writers did not throw in a negative comment about conservatives. No matter the relevance or accuracy of said comment...

Terry's avatar

I’m a conservative, and I’m quite happy that women are normalizing older pregnancy. My own child was born from an older pregnancy (45 years old, to be precise). This is not 1930 anymore and we have the technology to help make healthy babies even after 40 which is Nature’s own red line.

Tom Servo's avatar

I bet they are related to the "authorities" the presstitutes are always prattling on about

Steve G's avatar

“Unnamed authorities”…..there tightened it up a bit.

MG's avatar

Or "experts"

David Dunn's avatar

I know exactly zero conservatives who are angry about women in their 40's getting pregnant.

Lanny's avatar

Still David that is a pretty shockingly high number!

It clearly indicates just how mysoginistic the Republican Party has become.

😉

Lanny's avatar

Trash it is.

These characterizations of Conservatives tell us far more about the writer than it does about actual Conservatives.

Disa sacks's avatar

Releasing Billions of dollars to the Iranian regime is not"winning"

thus far every statement bt Vance and Trump is immediately contradicted by The Qataris and the Iranians

over on the X platform, a slew(approx 150 ) of Zionist -and expat Iranians who oppose the Mullah regime ( jews and non jews )accounts were suspended 2 days ago after criticizing the Vance MoU deal. Donald Trump Jr and an Account called Rapid Response 47(run by a 20 something political operative Alex Bruesewitz who spoke in Doha Qatar recently) , publicly went after these accounts just prior to the suspensions,for daring to express their displeasure with Vance trump and the MoU as is their first amendment right.

bruesewitz denies he had anything do with the censorship

the vague nebulous term was "inauthentic behavior" was cited by X as the reasons for the accounts being suspended.

Elon Musk promised Freedom Of Speech on X

These accounts were Trump voters ( most all 3 times)

criticizing our Government when we disagree is our civic responsibility

these are the same censorship tactics of the Biden Regime

After much work and aggravation some of the accounts were reinstated, but many are permanently suspended

there is a big story here .

Terry's avatar

Hm… this sounds fishy. Can you give an example or two? Which accounts?

KARYN TRUITT's avatar

I walked away from Twitter/X the first time they shut me down.

Lanny's avatar

Thank you for expressing my sentiments far better than I could have.

Spot-on!

Disa sacks's avatar

I hope the Free Press will cover this story

Government pressure on X to censor citizens is exactly what the current NIH Director sued the Biden Admin for

A significant number of scientists were also suspended 2 days ago again for “ inauthentic behaviors” which no one even knows what that means

Dr B is now in power and yet he stays silent

very very disturbing

This is dystopian in the extreme

Doc's avatar

Sometimes, stories write themselves.

Alligator Alcatraz. Where the Brits went wrong.

In fact, some of Britain’s leaders need to spend some time in Florida’s famous prison.

As to AA, CRIME = TIME. Everyone knows how unbearably hot it is in Florida (I have a home there). So, if you commit a crime in Florida or commit a crime where you may end up in Florida prisons, you can bet your bottom dollar, AA may be in your future. Sad to see AA go. Those who weep over these criminals should seek out the victims of their crimes. Ask victims how uncomfortable their life has become. And, btw, illegal is still ILLEGAL.

NOW, as to BRITAIN: WOKE does not work. OPEN BORDERS do not work. Brexit DID NOT WORK. And SOCIALISM DOES NOT WORK. How much more do you need to know? Prioritizing one color over another, no matter the color, will CAUSE CONFLICT. As will cultural relativism and NON-ASSIMILATION. This is true especially, when it comes to sexual crimes wherein they are ACCEPTED PRACTICE IN ONE CULTURE AND NOT IN ANOTHER. The human body for some degenerate men and their culture, is a means of exchange, a symbol of submission, a symbol of power “over.” Get them into degenerate collectives and you have a real problem on your hands, especially when you prioritize that group OVER THE BRITISH PEOPLE. A child could write this story.

Clarity Seeker's avatar

Iranian Moolah. Is Iran now ( or very soon) bringing in billions from oil sales? Is Qatar about to send over 12billion of frozen cash. Was Iran supposed to perform first ( either the VP said it or he didn't; there seems to be a lot of confusion). Should we get clear answers. Maybe the answer is we get lower oil prices and it helps the midterms. That might be the best play at this time because politics does matter. My questions here are simply asking for truthful statements or must truth also be sacrificed for politics? Then again, maybe some of the cash will reimburse Persian families for the costs they incurred to bury the 45000 slaughtered.

Lanny's avatar

Politics is important.

BUT when it is prioritized over principals then what you are defending is no longer worth saving.

I've seen it in our churches.

Pastors so intimidated by the loss of congregants that they refuse to take a stand on moral issues that their own Bible clearly sets forth.

Clarity Seeker's avatar

Yep. I have been reading a lot the past week from a wide swath of conservative writers . Some opposed the entire operation from the beginning while others fully supported the campaign and today fall into varying camps re MoU( like it, hate it, wait and see what will happen in both November and then after).

There is much at stake in November and there is much st stake if Iran reverts to its past actions ( nukes, proxies, missiles etc).

The more analysis I read the more I think the current "negotiations " are more about midterms. Maybe thats job one? I dont know. Maybe this is first step in isolationist retrenchment? Many would like that; others like VDH have skewered the idea. Two things are pretty much for sure: the dems will cut back defense spending and military initiatives and defund israel if they reaquire power ( hence the importance of politics right now); and Iran will lie and cheat because their grand goal has not changed one bit ( the leopard still has its spots).

We are still on the mid innings here. Or at least i hope so.

Lanny's avatar

"Or at least i hope so.

Maybe hope should be a verb as Kamal hopes.

😉

Clarity Seeker's avatar

I think the mamala may be more of a verb than a noun( she Kamaladed again)

Clarity Seeker's avatar

Great piece on Iranian women singing and being flogged. Good to know we can now expect the floggers to be honest brokers and live in peace. Where are all the western feminists. Preparing for the next no kings Singathon no doubt where the only thing flogged are our ears .

Michelle Styles's avatar

Paul Murrell, the estranged husband of Nicola Sturgeon has been jailed for over 5 years for embezzling over £400k of SNP funds. https://news.sky.com/story/peter-murrell-latest-former-snp-chief-to-be-sentenced-for-400-000-embezzlement-of-party-funds-13556937

Will it be a coronation for Burnham? He certainly hopes so as he has lost every other leadership contest he has entered (badly). Al Carns is said to be mulling over standing for the leadership, if only to force a national conversation about the need for National Resilience and Security. When asked to rule out a run for the leadership, Carns said 'no' https://news.sky.com/story/politics-latest-burnham-starmer-labour-makerfield-by-election-12593360

https://labourlist.org/2026/06/the-next-leader-has-to-govern-differently/

NB I like Carns but suspect that he won't get anywhere.

This gives more on Carns: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2026/06/23/this-is-al-carnss-chance-to-spoil-burnham-coronation/ or https://archive.ph/Nvw3q

Lanny's avatar

I so enjoy your take on what is going on across the pond.

Please continue to help us see the big picture.

Clarity Seeker's avatar

Niall on NHS: rationing medicine and procedures. TFP: we are told we need socialized medicine and that this is perhaps the strongest issue for the dems and socialists ( but I repeat my self); how about a few pieces on how socialized works in practice rather than theory or was Niall telling fibs. Feel free to address if the supply of docs and nurses increased commensurately w the number of patients ( when the border was opened and how many open borders advocates said we will wait until the undocumented patients are all treated)

Lanny's avatar

THANK YOU!

There is the real difference between Progressives and Conservatives.

The former is obssessed with theory.

The latter is sobered by experience.

Clarity Seeker's avatar

Drunk on and addicted to theory? 😉

Lanny's avatar

“Britain was starting to make Italy look stable and well-governed.”

What a sad commentary on our once great ally.

Even sadder is that we are not far behind.

Lanny's avatar

Casey Babb's This is my Dad's Last Father's Day spoke to me.

It inspired me to reread my last tribute to...

MY DAD

The men who built Houston’s Spring Branch/Memorial in the late 50’s and early 60’s were children of the Great Depression. Many like my dad attended four and five different schools each year as their migrant families shuffled from city to city and state to state eking out a subsistence living in one oil field or another. One of his many second-grade teachers told one of their many landlords… “They’re just oilfield trash, here today and gone tomorrow.” By the time he left home at seventeen he had lived in fifty-four different rental houses.

My mom’s family was as poor as church-mice but they were rich by comparison. The first time Dad walked to Mom’s house to ask her for a date, her little sister Betty slammed the door in his face, but not before she informed him… “Our Daddy don’t let us date OIL FIELD TRASH!”

These were the boys who demolished Nazi Germany, who leveled Imperial Japan, and who fought the Chi-Coms to a standstill in the frozen wasteland that was Korea. They were skinny kids like my dad who lied about his age to join the Marine Corps and then the Merchant Marines when the Corps sent him back home. Thanks to the G.I. Bill, they were the first ever in their families to go to college. And through it all, they really were…just boys.

But, by the time they moved their families to Spring Branch/Memorial they were men. These were the workaholics who through dent of personality, intellect, and ambition were determined to give their sons and daughters the childhood they had never known. They were professional successes like my dad, who simply outworked and outperformed the men who didn't rise to meet the challenges life threw at them.

They weren't trust fund babies. They never apologized for their success. They taught us to make our own way in the world and to never feel embarrassed for whatever we might achieve. The best lesson he ever taught me… “My successes aren’t your successes and my failures aren’t your failures. Stand on your own two feet.” I know that none of this is politically correct to say today, but these were real men. They were as Tom Brokaw has written, “The Greatest Generation.”

My dad was tough but fair. Our house at 12135 Broken Bough in Memorial Forest had a bay-window bench seat that looked very much like a coffin. Once I had my brother Phil get in it and I placed some flowers from my mom’s garden on his chest. I told our four-year-old brother Carter and our four-year-old cousin Kaki that Phillip had died and asked them if they would like to say goodbye to him before we had to bury him. When I opened the lid and they peered in, Phil sat-up and growled.

They ran screaming from the house to the neighbor who was washing his car across the street. Neighbors back then never thought twice about reporting you to your parents. Parents never thought twice about saying anything but thank you for the information. Let’s just say it was not pleasant when Dad got home.

In 1960 Dad bought an early 1950’s stretch limousine from his boss Ed Andrews who lived in the toney River Oaks section of Houston. The car was so long that it couldn't fit in our garage. It covered half the driveway that backed out on to Plantation Drive.

On a trip to California my brother Carter could literally run around in the back. We had wrestling matches and slept on a pallet made for three. It was the best trip I ever took. Late at night I’d sit next to Dad as he drove and we’d listen to ball games by the light of the radio. As we cruised the interstate, one station would fade to static and we’d pick-up another one. When Mom and my two brothers were asleep on a pallet in the back, he’d tell me about the things he thought a man should know.

Nobody had ever heard of a seat belt and if we had nobody would have worn one. After church one day we found a sign taped to the window that said… “Smith Funeral Home.” My dad sold the car on Monday. I loved that car!

In the summer of my fourteenth year, Dad put me to work in a machine shop running a drill press and cleaning out oil reclamation drums. When you are fourteen and have acne, being drenched in oil eight hours a day is not the job you want. No watching girls in bikinis as a life guard at the Memorial Forest Swimming Pool or bagging groceries at the air-conditioned A&P for me.

During one of my high school summers, Dad put me to work for Milton Huebner, a neighbor who ran an insulation business. I had been friends with his son Phil Huebner until the boy died of Leukemia. I thought Mr. Huebner would give me some cushy air-conditioned office assignment. Boy was I wrong. It was the worst job I’ve ever had. When a house caught on fire, the blackened needle like fiberglass insulation had to be scraped out of the attic by hand. Since I had not had a growth spurt, I could get into spaces none of the men on my crew could reach. Try scraping insulation from burnt-out attics where plate glass doors have exploded during a Houston summer. You would be surprised how many attic fires there are in a city the size of Houston. Dad wanted me to learn a lesson. Lesson learned!

Growing up in Spring Branch/Memorial we knew relative wealth and we knew some pretty lean years. Most people remember Dad for his unstinting generosity during the flush years. I remember him as the most generous man I had ever known but especially when times were tough. Dad always stood up in the storm but he never failed to show compassion for those who stumbled and fell. I have seen him give not loan money to people when he was worried about making his own mortgage payment.

I learned more about how a man should act from him than from anyone I have ever known. I have seen him challenge a man three inches taller, twenty-five pounds heavier, and ten years younger than he was, when that man used foul language around my brother and me. The man backed down and apologized.

Once I broke down and cried from embarrassment from having to wear hand-me down suits from his bosses’ son. My Dad took me to Foley’s and bought me a suit of my own when I knew he didn’t have the money at the time. When I entered West Point on July the third of 1969, I hope in some small way I made him half as proud of me as I was of him.

The men who raised us in Spring Branch/Memorial were a special breed. They ran Indian Guides, coached the little league teams, served on countless church committees, and they were always there to provide discipline and love in the correct dosage. They worked six-day weeks and seven (after church of course) when it was needed. They provided us with an idyllic childhood. It was not one they had ever experienced but it was the one they had always dreamed their children should have.

JN64's avatar

What a great tribute to your Dad!

Clarity Seeker's avatar

Easy to now understand where your values came from. Thx for sharing