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May 8, 2022·edited May 9, 2022

Imagine spending $70K+ per year to send your kid to this soulless institution.

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I'm a retired college professor and at this point I can't imagine spending $0.01 to send a kid to any institution of "higher education" in the U.S.

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I’m a dentist that thinks trade school and a 200k graduation gift is looking like a much better bargain than university tuition at this point. And my kids are bright.

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I keep telling my daughters that the world needs electricians and plumbers - not BA students - but they aren’t biting.

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As noble as the impulse to protect one’s children is, we shouldn’t encourage our kids to shy away from the fight.

If all of our kids hide away in the productive class of society while allowing the most vile lunatics to inherit the levers of power unchallenged, there eventually won’t be anywhere left for our kids to hide.

We can’t protect our kids forever. It’s better that they learn to fight sooner than later.

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Well said and thank you for saying it. May your children be strong and blessed.

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Good point.

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My son has decided not to go to college. He's smart and could have gotten into some fine institutions, but he is going to take up a trade. I have taught at 2 universities in CA and I don't see the relevance anymore. In fact, according to NPR, more companies are hiring people without a B.A. They just want skill sets.

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Have them get a degree in art history. That will carry them far. Just kidding.

Have them get a two year degree in sonography and make about 90 grand a year.

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May 13, 2022·edited May 13, 2022

My daughter got a degree in Art History - Smith College - but then she realized there were no jobs...so we paid for 4 more years of schooling....2 years of STEM courses just to to get her into an MA Program in Nutrition at Columbia, the 2 years of the program itself. She's 30 and just starting to work....she's just lucky we had the funds to do it.......we're exhausted!!!!

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My daughter graduated with a degree in art history and is now a senior executive for one of the largest companies in the world. She was told many rimes that executive recruiters look for those with a broader education.

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As an Art History Graduate I take exception to your comment. Art History provides an excellent, broad education in not only Art, but Religious History; Material Culture; Social History; Medical History; Military History; History of Social Morés; and much more. It is a rigorous undertaking affording critical thinking tools...which many degree paths do not (think: gender studies).

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Also you get good with the deep fryer

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They can always be a dental hygienist or a physical therapist assistant, go to school for two years, and also avoid the “stigma” of not going to college. Bonus points, those jobs pay a lot better than most of the four year degrees and you can easily work part time when you have kids. (I employ dental hygienists and my wife is a PTA).

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Keep trying one day they might just bite

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😂🤣😂🤣

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Thankfully there’s Bari’s and Niall’s project in Austin now too!

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That’s a God send to ones ears

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Perhaps Hillsdale, but aside from that one exception, I agree 100% !

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Underrated college, Hillsdale. May be the last of the "diversity of thought" institutions who eschew Title IX to stay that way.

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Jordan Peterson gave the commencement address there yesterday. You can watch it on YouTube.

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Really? I will look for it, he's the best!

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Hebrew university J’selm

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Think we should all make Aliya maybe I’m to old now for Uni but one is never to old for Israel🇺🇸🇮🇱

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I'm waiting on Hillsdale to open a charter school in my area. Fingers crossed. Then again I live in a leftist dystopian bubble so it's unlikely they will be able to set up shop here.

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So do I.. I'm a "Whole Foods Republican." Ride a bike everywhere, buy organic, etc. But hate woke, and hate ignorance even more.

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Please take a look at mykatapult.com. This is a free website I led and funded to help students find a career that matches their strengths and interests, then shows them about 40 careers that might fit them. They can then take one of those careers or any that the Bureau of Labor Statistics shows, some 800+, and they can see the highest value education pathways to that career, based on return on investment. The site is completely agnostic , any career/trade school is rated just as Harvard. Guess which comes out on top. I actually got this into the Compton School District, but Covid hit and all schools and after school programs were unable to add anything new.

It runs on auto pilot now.

In 2012 I gave up on universities to reform themselves as presently constituted, so I invented this to give students a shot at ending up with a happy work life and financial security.

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Thanks for this tip. I'm sharing it with my kids now...

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I hope they see the benefit of comparing careers and education pathways to those careers based on the best guesstimate of ROI I have seen anywhere. Ask me anything if I can help.

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Ruralbob, that speaks volumes.

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St. John’s Annapolis, as noted above.

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I am a professor at at a Big Ten university and I couldn’t agree more.

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Imagine what Israel would do if every surrounding Arab state unilaterally disarmed and took down its border fortifications. Nothing.

Now imagine what the surrounding Arab states - including the sainted "Palestinians - would do if Israel disbanded the IDF and opened its borders.

You really don't have to imagine it. Just read what the bloodthirsty Islamists say they'd do to the Jews.

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If the Palestinian leadership had used the tens of billions of dollars that have been funded by the West to improve the lives of the Palestinian people, the Palestinians would more than likely be living in a nation that had living standards very close to those of many Western nations. However, as history has shown, the Palestinian leadership chose to squander these billions through corruption, mismanagement, and outright self-enrichment, and to continually incite hatred against Israel, and here we are with these same tired "blame Israel" and "incite violence against Israelis" agenda to deflect from bad leaders that have govern the Palestinians for many decades. I'm tired of the "oh woe is me Palestinian agenda" - end the corruption and elect honest people and move forward Palestine - violence and hatred have not served you well.

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Who spreads hate and disinformation better than the BDS group?

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The Democratic Party

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We have to take them at their word and defend ourselves.

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After seeing how difficult it has been for our friends’ kids to get into college, I agree with this. To beg these colleges to be let in, take on 30-yr debt only to have them bathed in this horrendous way of thinking that is going to destroy our society with hatred is tragic. When will the leaders of these places be held accountable? Imagine those murals with any other ethnicities or religions and it would have been plastered all over MSM.

I try to be hopeful but every day I feel another wave of despair for our country.

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We're so f**ked.

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I hate to think like that but at times it’s hard not to.

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We're bigger than that. Don't quit.

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I do too. But I can't see a way out.

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Totally there has to be a way back from this Jack

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I can't see it. I hope you're correct.

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It is tragic Bull's Eye.

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It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant and unenlightened the left is. They hate Israel but love Islam. Whoever refers to it as the religion of peace is an ignoramus. All you have to do is to take a cursory look at the history of Islam to know it is not the religion of peace and has never been the religion of peace.

Less than 100 years after Muhammad’s death, the armies of Islam swept over North Africa slaughtering non-believers and convert the survivors at the point of a sword and in 711 they invade Spain and Portugal and about 20 years later invaded France until they were defeated by Charles the Hammer at the battle of Tours. The Muslims decry the crusades but the crusades only lasted 300 years, whereas Islam assailed Western Europe for over 1100 years.

In the 1500s the forces of Islam invaded India and it is estimated they slaughter about 50 million people, denuding entire provinces of people. The great 20th Century historian, Will Durant, wrote before the Second World War, that the Indian invasion was probably the bloodiest period in the history of the world.

To this day Islam is still assailing the West. Religion of peace my ass and anyone who claims it is the religion of peace is a vicious, uneducated, jerk!

These same people, who love Islam, claim to be feminist yet they love the religion treats women like crap. Imans give classes on how to beat your wife. It is a male dominated religion where the men can beat and kill any of his female family members with impunity.

How do these uneducated, vicious leftists, claim to be feminists and claim that Islam is the religion of peace?

Most of these people vote Democrat. I ask again, how can any Jew vote Democrat? It is a party promotes that antisemitism and anti-Israeli propaganda. You may say that is extreme but the two female Muslins in the Democrat controlled House of Representatives have made antisemitic and anti-Israeli remarks and Nancy Pelosi has done nothing. She has never condemned them as vicious racists.

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I used to be on the Left. But the Left has morphed into something that I don't recognize as being progressive. In fact, it has become more intolerant and ignorant. Dangerous, even. I shake my head every day as I take another step away from the Left.

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We are, little by little, punching our way out of the psyop. The "LIE" has become transparent and its main illusion, convincing us that we are powerless, is evaporating. The criminal graft hollowing out our country is exposed for all to see. The desperation of D.C. denizens, especially in the Democratic Party, to reign with chaos and fear reveals how shaky things are. We are developing a new national dialogue. And, we're winning.

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I wish I could give your comment 100 likes. Question is where is the Hammer and Rodrigo Diaz when we need them?

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I agree. Well said.

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I stopped supporting the Michigan alumni association a couple decades ago, and I'm tempted to join again, just so that I can drop them again.

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Jon...liked that one.

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I told Berkeley Development Person that i was going to ask a few other influential donors to reconsider based on what happened at UCLA. That works.

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My daughter is a PhD student @ Berkeley. I am hoping her choice of career is in the private sector.

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As a professor, I would advise her to stay clear of the academy, especially if she is not a progressive. It’s a stifling environment to say the least.

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Good advice.

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I pulled out of the Penn State alumni association as well. Makes me sick 🤮what these people are doing to higher education.

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Me too...had been a PSU football season ticket holder for 35 years as well...gave it up.

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May 8, 2022·edited May 8, 2022

Strictly 2 year technical colleges with fully accepted degrees in science and technology needed ASAP. Would get the youngsters out in the work force quicker to support our aging population, bankrupt social security, medicare fund etc., and 2 years less opportunity for the Leftist lib arts profs to indoctrinate the naive, unformed cortex, coeds with progressivism. Employers, entrepreneurs like Musk need to take the lead here. Plus less college debt for Sandy Cortez and Boonie Sandas to whine about.

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Even Technical H. S ‘s. But they were abolished bc. the Left said that was a form of Racism.

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My Jewish-American kid opted to attend college outside the US over the Ivy he had always wanted to attend, in no small part because his super-woke high school gave him a taste of what was coming in college if he remained in the US. We're spending a reasonable amount of money for a solid education without the b.s. He's in a country where Jews are beyond minority (and yes, where BDS and SJP have a strong presence on campus) but finds that his peers are not knee-jerk antisemites and are generally open-minded and levelheaded. And the tiny Jewish student organization doesn't bend over backward to apologize for their Jewishness. Cannot recommend enough looking beyond the US borders for higher ed.

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I've had the same thought for our kids (younger than yours), and my Israeli wife is strongly of this view. It was originally prompted by the absurd cost of higher education in the US. But Woke, far-left antisemitism is a factor in our thinking now.

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We started down the path based on cost and depth of study (our kid had no interest in a buffet-like liberal arts curriculum). But as we watched the wokeness creep in while he was in high school, climate became more and more important. Not shockingly, the climate on his campus is very liberal, but it's got a more European socialist slant to it (tons of protesting about the "high" cost of higher ed and student housing) and less US-style woke grief politics. And most of my son's friends live at home and commute and work to pay their own school fees, so there's not a ton of time for angst and attacks. They're in school for school.

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May 8, 2022·edited May 8, 2022

I think we have convinced our girls to go to technical college instead, get two or even 3 two year trade courses under their belt and kiss off university entirely where the insane have taken over, because we let them take over

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An unspeakable crime. Save the money and steer your budding young scholars elsewhere.

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‘Elsewhere’ is everywhere. As a Jew it is my responsibility to fight Antisemitism…but first I thoroughly taught my children every aspect of Jewish history, so they could fight…not run. (Elsewhere) We have run all we are going to. (Thousands of years, no matter our choice or not)

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The thousands year hate for Jews is alive with Harvard and very much so without it. Antisemitism is soulless.

To keep it going every hater needs a cause or a problem as proxy to hate Jews. Simple and ugly as that.

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What an interesting concept; if they don’t think the way you want them to, their soulless!

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I was taught by survivors to never be a victim in the sense of self victimization. However I personally could not carry a weapon but I do not see anything wrong with Jews of the right mindset to use them.

I fight with my mouth and activism. I will conclude that we are living in a most dangerous Anti Jewish time in history where hate for Jews is pretty much inherent within humankind.

Tragically, I believe Jews, Israel and our belief in Zionism is the most reviled of all ethnicities, countries and religious beliefs in the whole world.

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Excellent points but there's a rub. When in CT, I have a carry permit and Krav Maga training. But in NYC, I am functionally disarmed and the threats are exponentially greater. Thoughts? (btw, not technically Jewish but Jewish daughters, so no difference).

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A flare gun? That seems a bit impractical. If you’re looking for an alternative to a firearm, a taser will or mace seem like better alternatives. Hell, even brass knuckles seem more practical than trying to shoot someone with a flare gun.

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I have no doubt a flare gun would be intimidating. However, if you shoot and miss (which is more likely than not), you run the risk of setting something on fire. God help you if you shoot it inside, you could burn the building down. If you shoot and hit your target, then would the desired effect be to set the person on fire? Would a glancing hit by the flare really be enough to deter a determined assailant?

I like the sound of that pepper gel, but if given the choice between a flare gun and a knife/black-jack, I’d take the latter.

Plus, imagine explaining to the police why you shot a flare gun at someone and set your neighbor’s house on fire lol

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I'm a Catholic, so I'm perhaps naive when I ask this, but ... why do Jews continue to support progressives who clearly have contempt for them?

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I am Jewish, and a Jewish friend told me “there’s nothing worse than a Jewish republican” - nothing worse? Not even a president’s advocating for the destruction of the only Jewish state with the JCPOA? This is how they think. Gut wrenching.

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Shirley, the notion of any Jew canceling another Jew because of politics is beyond the pale. I often ask what the rabbis of these cancellers have to say and how they square any of this with the Jewish values they claim to possess.

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But my belief is that political discourse has become so toxic that many have just packed up gone to their own echo chamber to avoid the conflict.

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Canceling is bad, I agree. But vigorous debate ! That’s what Jews do.

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Self hating Jews are the worst amongst us Peter Beinart is one that comes to mind a big voice on MSM but we need all types amongst us it keeps us strong🇮🇱

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I always thought the self-hating jew was caused by the emotional inability to accept that you are hated for who you are and not what you do and that there is no behavior or belief that can exempt you from anti-semitism. I'm not trying to excuse it but want to know how to combat it. What do you think?

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I am not sure what your point is but presumably we are on the same page. You are more versed in scripture than I am so excuse my ignorance. My point was the hypocrisy that is on full display each and every day.

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May 9, 2022·edited May 9, 2022

Last weekend, I attended the CT GOP (Republican) state convention (pre-primary voting!). There was a small gathering of Jews who did an 'abbreviated' Shabbat before the convention began. The Stamford GOP delegate who led the service said he had never attended a political event ever, never expressed his politics publicly, but that he was so alarmed and concerned about what was happening in the country today that he not only showed up to the convention, but conducted the Shabbat service as well. Needless to say, it was lovely. It was reassuring to have a reading and prayer before our convention day began. Jewish Republicans may be rare but they are very welcome in the GOP, as Judeo-Christian values align with the party's values.

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because people have forgotten how to think separate from their political affiliation, its so disturbing

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You should have given her/him they a Will Smith that would have sorted them out immediately

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LOL Poor Will. I bet when he impulsively ran on that stage he didn't realize he would become part of our nation's vocabulary. Have a feeling he cringes when he sees he's in company with Jussie Smollet.

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Many Jews, in an attempt to be as broad minded as possible, consider it unseemly to take their own side in a fight, except in a fight with other Jews. It’s said that when the Romans conquered Jerusalem, they suffered no casualties because the Jewish residents were in the midst of a civil war over what to do about the Romans. The more things change…

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I not Jewish and don't understand the struggles within the religion well enough to comment. My personal experience of Jews is a lot like my experience of Christians. For some the meaning they derive from their religious experience and faith is central to their lives. Others participate at a minimal level and some are completely indifferent. Others play it for everything it's worth. On a direct level Jews I've met are some of the most family/community oriented, hard working and intelligent people I've know. They possess a very dry sense of wisdom/humor which, being from the American S.W. I greatly enjoy. I see all of us here as Americans first, though I understand, that the controversy around Israel and the history of Jewish oppression demands a bit of split allegiance on the part of Jews. I cannot logically see, how after the horrors of WWII, Jews could be denied a homeland.

My source of anger is the destruction of American unity by the machinations of race hustling Marxists "woke" and its exploitation by criminal totalitarian finance to muddy rational American dialogue and cover up the "..greatest upward transfer of wealth in history.." The open assault on and intentional hollowing out of American real industry and economics and the ongoing attempt at cultural/spiritual genocide by D.C. grifters is a wake-up call to which all Americans should respond. The Harvard horror outlined in the article speaks directly to the decline of American education, intellect and the attempt to reduce us all to a caricature of ourselves. The privacy of a persons personal religious belief is their own call but the idea that an American would have to hide their identity from other Americans makes me sad.

I continue to put faith in the power of our Constitutional Republic, our Constitution, and the Bill of Rights it contains. If it is founded on the moral and Christian ideals of the "enlightenment" then it also springs from the Jewish struggle for relatedness, clarity and connection to the great living mystery from which we all spring.

We're all here to support and create a new national dialogue based on truth, facts and human reason. For me, the extremity of measures and lies being hurled against us is a clear measure of the fear of those doing it. We are not whipped. And we're not gonna be.

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My eldest brother, who rarely said anything worth remembering, once commented on the strange culture of the Appalachian mountain people, saying, "They are just like the Jews; if you want to get rid of them, leave them alone. They'll kill each other. But God help an outsider who harms one hair; they will band together and destroy them." My experience is that he was right on the money.

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100% true

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The Judean Peoples Front fighting the Peoples Front of Judea springs to mind, but that was more an allusion to the political left of the time I thought.

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Splitters!

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As the Romans built their encampments around Jerusalem, a faction leader named John thought a guerilla raid to destroy the not yet complete camps would forestall the inevitable siege. His soldiers ultimately didn’t do it for fear that the other faction would close the gates and leave them to be slaughtered by the Romans

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I've never been able to understand that either. I grew up in a jewish suburb of Detroit back in the 60s and we were one of the few Christian families on the street, but I grew up loving the society. Many of these families were first generation Eastern European Jews who arrived after before, during and shortly after WWII. I could never figure out why so many of the Jews I worked/interacted with during the 70s and after seemed so opposed to Israel's policies, and supported the Democrat party.

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Mind blowing think they believe the Dems were the party of the down trodden maybe they were once today not so they hate Israel and the men in blue I’m baffled how Biden got into the White House

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Not often, but the Jewish community I grew up in, Oak Park, pretty much moved to the NW burbs, and took the Stage Deli with them. I grew up a couple blocks from the original Stage and grew up eating their Pastrami/chopped liver/swiss/thousand island on rye sandwiches....with a side of slaw.

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OMG my mouth is watering

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Great news if it’s true I haven’t been there

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I’m an 80 year old Jewish Republican. I’ve been asking that question all my life. My first campaign button “I Like Ike”. My parents voted for Strevenson. I was ten years. I asked them why they would vote for a boring bald guy instead of a general?

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You were bright!

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Jewish people are not a monolith. We all have different opinions. Interestingly, Jewish immigrants from former Soviet Union are typically strongly opposed to progressivism. Same for religious Jews. Why some Jews continue to support progressives is clear: this is the only way to be considered part of an in-group among the "elites" in the US today, a litmus test for being considered a reasonable person in some communities and even workplaces, an attempt to fit in. Sadly history has many examples where a non-negligible number of Jews actively supported ideology that turned out to be very harmful to the Jewish people (e.g. the support of the Communism movement early on in the Soviet Union).

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Yes. They want to be members in good standing with the elite they aspire to be.

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If I could weigh in here, I have given this a lot of thought, since I have myself gone through the process I see at work. Jews in the Western world have found in a universalist stance a way to espouse what they've inherited as Jewish traditions and values in a non-Jewish manner. Safely, in other words, in terms of their status and acceptance. They've found this acceptance so easily available to them this way (until recently) that they have become deeply anti-tribal about their own tribe while defending the best and the worst both of all other tribalisms. I have hope this will turn around because of how the anti-Semitic left is overplaying its hand. In that it used to be careful to claim its anti-Zionism was not anti-Jew. But of late, that line has been eroding rapidly. It presents Jews who want to avoid the issue with a much more difficult challenge.

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Fascinating perspective. Obviously many readers wonder about this paradox.

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Excellent comment. Brings to mind Daniel Gordis's book We Stand Divided. Universalism was what made the American Jewish community into what it was, whereas particularism is what created the Israeli Jewish community. The problem is the naivety of some in the American Jewish community applying what worked in only one very particular instance of Jewish history to the Israeli state and expecting the same outcome.

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Yes, Americans apply their version of being Jewish to Israel and that’s not helpful. One example is the American Jews desire (or imposition of their desire) for women to pray at the Western Wall with men. Whereas Israel has settled this by following the more Orthodox approach of separate prayer for men and women. I for one don’t agree with American Jews on this point and have settled myself to respecting the Orthodox position in Israel.

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Interesting.

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I’ve wondered this as well. I have two very close jewish friends who are still resolute in their support for Biden and progressive policies. Lovely people and they themselves are quite conservative and traditional (in terms of lifestyle). You can’t have conversations about any of this with either of them. I think many people are still holding onto this notion that the democrats are the good guys as they support the disadvantaged.

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I think they still probably suffering TDS and are worried that President 45 might turn into 47 come 2024 I did note you said conservative in lifestyle that could be the answer right there

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This would make more sense if the lot of them didn't hate Republicans just as much before Trump.

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My take on it is that the Jewish community is very supportive of each other. They think that having an expansive government welfare system would provide similar support, and the Dems are always for expanding the social system. Unfortunately, when government is involved it is done by force, and that drains it of all its virtue since it is no longer a charitable act to be involved. Not to mention that government programs are universally corrupt.

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T, suggest you not stereotype on this. The comments herein make clear that many Jews do not stand with those who show their intolerance towards those who dissent from their views. We all need to evaluate individuals not make generalizations on a group basis. That is how identity politics works and why it poisons our country.

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Corrupt in some ways, yes. But even worse, government programs are universally inefficient, wasteful, and inept.

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Nope. Nope. Nope. Various Jewish communities dislike each other intensely. Secular Jews especially hate religious Jews. Maybe once we were supportive, not in recent decades.

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I'm Catholic, too - why do Catholics continue to vote for a party who's president refuses to condemn the vandalization of Catholic churches?

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I'm Catholic too and can't wrap my head around that either. Before the last election I was talking with friends who are fairly devout and pointed out that the Dems are pushing for 9 month abortions so you can't vote for anyone associated with that in good conscience. They ended up having to fact check me on it because they really couldn't believe it. I believe many simply don't know, or have been so inculcated with the fact that Dems=good, they can't see what's actually happening ing.

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I don’t know how anyone can be that ignorant unless they just don’t want to know.

On Mother’s Day they want us to demand that mothers be allowed to murder their babies, not just before birth but after as well.

How does that even make sense?

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🤷‍♂️

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When the primaries roll around the “Catholics” in the Democrat party have a hard time in this diocese.

Biden was denied communion and went crying to the Bishop, who told him the problem was in the mirror not the priest.

Still I’m with you. How Pelops gets away with calling herself a Catholic is a mystery.

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There’s been a pretty shocking amount of open anti-Catholicism and repeating of anti-Catholic tropes following the leak of the SCOTUS draft opinion. It’s pretty shocking how open that kind of bigotry is, even in places like The Gist.

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More specifics, please.

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We have a very old but very well maintained pipe organ. At the beginning of Mass Father announced that we’d been targeted and if anyone should disrupt Mass at any point, we were to remain in our seats as the organist played the pipe organ as loud as he possibly could.

We also had two police officers very conspicuous at the church.

What an insane world.

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Ahhhhh, a very popular question. Once a Jewish person, Harvard student editorial writer Rapaport, GaysWHFP Glenn Greenwald etc,, converts to the Progressive religion they follow the team practices of that religion. "Oppressed" Muslims good, my team, the more anti American the better, etc etc.

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I have noted a big shift in the Jewish youth today , who are see Israel as oppressing Palestine. I find this troubling.

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Very troubling but I find not only Jewish kids I find all kids monsters they just don’t care they have social media iPads iPhones etc I would like to see how these kids are going to cope in the real world with what the government Dr Fauci etc and all their Covid policies have done to America

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😡😡

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Marek, but these are young people I come into contact on a daily basis, and I have noticed a shift over the past 20 years. I also believe what happened at Havard and Rutgers to be true. (And other liberal colleges as well as NYU law school.) You don´t?

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Marek, I am sharing my experience and yes I am very familiar with the Birthright program, thank you, as well asJews who have volunteered for Israeli military service, and actually know a few. Nevertheless, I have seen a tangible shift that I find disturbing. The incidents mentioned in Common Sense articles are not Fake News. Your last comment is just ridiculous.

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It’s a mix. There are many young Jews who do make Aliyah and join IDF. On the other side, there are many young Jews in America who side with the left, because either their parents taught them wrong or they were indoctrinated by the left. Both happen.

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Religious or Jews who are involved. The majority of American Jews are not involved at all, and progressivism is what fills the god-sized hole. That said, the demographics are changing.

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I'm not disagreeing with you. But in 2022, that is the majority of American Jewry. That said, I don't think the trend lines are good for that version of Jewish identity to continue persisting as the center of the community.

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A majority of American Jews vote Democratic. That’s not really a contested point. What percentage of American Jews qualify as “progressive” is a different matter, but there is certainly a very loud and vocal minority that fits the bill.

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Many Jews are ideologically aligned with the left agenda and choose to ignore the part where the left is anti Semitic. Where the virtue of being a member in good standing in the party outweighs the danger they choose to ignore at their peril.

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I don’t think they ignore it at all. Rather I think there is a big element of “screw you mom and dad for making me go to hebrew school on Sunday”. Is there anything more deliciously rebellious and spiteful than spitting in the face of your own heritage? Especially when it feels like it really doesn’t cost you anything but rather (paraphrasing Mrs. Horn here) only those “icky, weird Jews who do weird icky things like wear yarmulkes or live in Israel.”

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I believe they hate their parents, but not this much.

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I’m not saying that actual hatred of their parents is the motivation. Rather it is youthful rebelliousness combined with rootlessness. What motivation does your modal Jewish college student have to stand up for Israel? Most American Jewish kids grew up in nominal Jewish households at best. Standing up for Israel is hard on a college campus. Riding the “social justice” wave to pummel the “Zionists” and keep yourself on the ins with the woke mob is a much easier course of action, especially when most of their ties to actual Jewish practice ended at their bar/bat mitzvahs.

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I understand.

College kids should stand up for Israel because they are Jews.

They should not hide, even if their parents didn’t teach them right.

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I’m pretty sure that Dennis Prager has written about this phenomenon somewhere.

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Because they're not smart enough, like people of all ethnicities, to realize that times change. During most of history, anti-Semitism and threats to Jews came from the right, not from the Social Democrats or even (as many Jews perceived it) from the Communists, who (falsely) claimed to be above religious and ethnic prejudices, and only showed their anti-Semitism once they achieved power. And Jews, so often oppressed, therefore identified with other oppressed groups, such as blacks, whom the left claimed to champion.

So Jews always sympathized with, and voted for, the left. And most people get their political views from their parents, so this is passed from one generation to another. It's highly resistant to change.

Today, it's the left where anti-Semitism in most prevalent, and people on the right are the ones who favor judging people as individuals, not by their race or ethnicity. And the right is actually the home of liberalism, if liberalism is defined as believing in free speech, due process and tolerance for people with different views. But I can tell you, from lots of experience, that it's almost impossible to persuade most Jews that the Democrats are now a party fundamentally hostile to their interests and beliefs.

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What is you're saying is a twentieth-century truth, but it wasn't true in the nineteenth century, for example, when there existed a kind of left-wing antisemitism, and Jews in Europe and America (to the extent they voted at all) voted for middle-class parties ("liberal" in the European sense) and generally not for the left parties, nascent as those were. Left-wing antisemitism never disappeared, but it played a secondary role for decades until the last decades of the Cold War, when it reappeared on the far left.

What made Jews start to vote distinctively more to the left were three events: the wave of czarist persecution in the two generations before WWI, the Dreyfus Affair, and the rise of Nazism in the 1920s. In the US, for example, the Jewish vote was not solidly wedded to the Democratic party before the 1936 election.

It's past due for a reconsideration. Having read Tablet Magazine for the last six or seven years and absorbed what Alana Newhouse has been writing for more than a decade, my intuition has become fixated around this truth: the problem isn't voting for the Democrats per se -- it's overidentifying with the establishment, the "in" crowd. American Jews have pursued for decades not just assimilation, but a coveted "insider" status that is increasingly getting them into trouble. Promulgated largely by wealthy, white "progressives," the "inside" view now is ever more "woke" and not friendly to Jews or Israel.

For example, Harvard, which once had anti-Jewish quotas and later turned into a kind of promised land in the late 1950s and later (with high percentages of top-of-their-class Jewish students), is now quietly reducing Jewish presence on campus. This development is in part collateral to the effort to limit the number of Asian-American students. The class of 2024 of Harvard College will be well under 10% Jewish, by the last estimate I saw, lower than the quota era of the 1930s and 40s. Its Hillel and Jewish studies and related programs are very obviously shrinking. Other colleges often follow suit and imitate Harvard -- we'll see.

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That's a long, complicated answer. When it reaches an extreme, you have to start consulting the psychiatric literature on pathological self-hatred. It's a close cousin of the battered child or battered wife syndrome. A rational outsider can see what's wrong, but the self-negating victim is always ready with rationalizations, enabled by fear and strengthened by a sense of isolation.

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I half-agree with you. Let me amend what I wrote earlier: "... but the self-negating victim is always ready with rationalizations, enabled by fear and strengthened by a sense of isolation --or a need to please his tormentors--."

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Jews don’t really have a theology; the thrust of the first 30 odd books of the Bible is that God emerges through the presence of Justice in the community. Jews will align with progressive forces to foster conditions where people might fulfill the American promise of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness - poverty proscribes genuine choice. Unfortunately, many of these progressives have become virulent Jew haters, which leaves Jews like myself, politically homeless

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Of course Jews have a theology. It’s contained in the Torah, and it begins with believing in one God only, the God of the Fathers, the Creator of all mankind and the protector of Jews, the Chosen People, despite their periodic rejections of their God. As is happening now, among far too many Jews.

There are, however, secular, cultural Jews whose “religion” has become social justice movements. Those are the Jews of whom you speak. But they have largely turned their backs on their God.

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If you agree that theology is an attempt to study and ascertain the nature of God and God’s working in the Universe, Jews don’t have that - no meaningful discussions of the afterlife, no demonology, no debates on faith vs works. God makes things pretty clear when Moses asks Them (Elohim not pc) what Name should be used to address the Divine , and God basically says we’re not pals - you can’t know Me. Job basically gets the same answer; God affirms the idea of Justice by showing up when Job in his despair demands an accounting, but God has no meaningful answer beyond the finite cannot comprehend the Infinite. The Torah is really about the construction of a society where people can live together with some degree of fairness involving ritualistic practice. No kings, no aristocrats, no powerful priests -as God says” wherever you build an alter to me, I am there”. The nature of God evolves through the subsequent 900 or so years from a national god to a universal god - hence Jonah on Yom Kippur. The secular Jews you seem to deride, apprehend the fundamental message and are currently in trouble

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Have you followed developments at NYU? It was a subject here a few days ago. Lots of NY Jews are woke, and are anti-Israel as well.

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This thread follows Dara Horn’s article about anti-Semitism on campus, at Harvard in particular. Did you know that Harvard’s president, Lawrence Bacow, is a descendant of Holocaust survivors and was in a Jewish fraternity, yet has refused to condemn the Crimson’s flagrant anti-Semitism? Not enough of the “Jewish community” has been fighting back on campus. Not at Harvard, not at NYU, not elsewhere. Respectfully, Sir, I suggest that you have blinders on.

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Marek-- Maybe not NY state but NYC is very "woke".

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I grew up in Manhattan and my extended family live in all the boroughs. It used to be that Manhattan was the most liberal and Staten Island the most conservative. Now, however, because housing is so expensive young people are even moving to Staten Island. The demographics are changing so Woke is spreading among all the boroughs.

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It's true. These universities have been hijacked by antisemitism and are shills for the worst most repressive Islam. How did that happen?

I had never thought about Dara Horn's statement about freedom and the Jews but in thinking about it it is true. Every society that allows Jews to live has prospered. Every society where Jews are persecuted is on the path to becoming repressive and authoritarian. Recently, as Venezuela was beginning to feel the effects of Chavez, the very first group accused and attacked was a yeshiva followed closely by the physical destruction of several news outlets. Hand in hand.

The tragedy of all this is twofold. These students are the country's future leaders, and the pressure on American Jews is an indication this country is sliding down into authoritarianism and repression. Truth Ministry, anyone?

Thank you, Bari, for the high quality of the guest contributors.

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“I will bless those that bless you, and curse those that curse you”

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Yes, that is the promise, but I don't see it happening, do you?

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I believe it. I also think you can identify many historical antecedents where this has been verifiably true. I also must say that God is inscrutable to me in his plan but I continue my trust in Him

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Yes, I do too, sort of. Doesn't "Israel" mean "one who wrestles with God?"

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I believe so. Jacob spent a night “wrestling” apparently with God and ended up with a bum hip. Interestingly God seems to encourage our questions and complaints, but He seems less fond of indifference

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Hashem doesn’t specify precisely when the blessings and the curses will be coming , so hang in there Naomi

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I don't know. I don't know what is happening in Ukraine. Are the neo-Nazis in Ukraine comparable to Hitler's version of Nazism? The propaganda is so thick it is impossible to know. I have so few data points. Yes, Russia shouldn't have invaded and what they are doing is evil. However, I think there is much we don't know about. You might want to read Cynthia Chung's Substack. She does deep research and dense, thorough articles on this topic. The US's CIA has been an active player in Ukraine for a long, long while. Biden and his family interests are deeply embedded in Ukraine as we know. All the people I least trust are eager to get us into a shooting war with Russia. I remain skeptical.

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I'm not sure Russia wants to save Ukraine so much as it wants to protect its own country. You owe it to yourself to read Cynthia Chung. She has written a series explaining the historical background of what is going on. It is excellent. I could not begin to replicate her scholarship here. Suffice it to say our intelligence communities are deeply embedded in this conflict.

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the Ukes were not the only ones invaded and much concern, not the last...duck!

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IMO Hillary Clinton and her handmaiden Uma. I remember thinking when she advocated for Palestine that she was not going to do well in a burkha. But I do tend to engage in linear thought.

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Hits the target. Did you know that antisemitism is mainly a gentile problem, not a Jewish one? It's almost always a sign that something -- big or small -- is wrong.

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The LEFT hates everybody. That's what the left does, hate. Nobody hates like the left.

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This is the transition from a society based on the teachings of the English Enlightenment to a society based on the horrors of the French Enlightenment.

One stresses logic and reason while the other puts emphasis on emotion and “lived experience”.

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100%. Not surprising the progressive left is focused on eliminating the contributions of western Enlightenment thinkers.

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Well as the silly children of Harvard pretend with posters, their antics motivate working adults in real life. Their hateful puerile behavior is nothing but unintended advertising for AIPAC. Every time I read an article like this or see an anti-Zionist bumper sticker I send AIPAC more money. Anti-Zionism is hatred of Jewish people. Anti-Zionism is hatred of me; hatred of my children. Just that simple.

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Sending money to AIPAC is fine but it won’t solve the problem. Everyday folks need to stand up to intolerance of any kind. With respect to today’s ignorant and brainwashed college kids, their overindulgent parents need to cowboy up and threaten to withhold financial support if their children - and they are children - don’t stand up for tolerance and freedom of speech.

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I agree but it’s difficult to push back when you have paid thousands to educate them and it hasn’t exactly worked out

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I think you are correct Sea Sentry. Pay for it yourself if you believe that strongly.

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Agree fully.

Question is, why do we treat them as if they're simply benign political opponents?

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Send your money to the RJC instead of AIPAC.

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What do you expect? All good communists use propaganda to get their points across and that is what academia, particularly at the elite level, has been focused on since post modernist theory overwhelmed the marketplace of ideas at these institutions.

However, I am really distressed that with all this focus on inclusivity, equity and diversity, Jewish students are not able to openly express their faith. It just highlights what a load of crap this all is. There is only inclusivity if you think the way they think.

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It doesn't make any sense to me. All this hypocrisy. From the subject of this article, to women's (you can use that term this week) right to choose except when it's a mandated vaccine, to "sure you can riot outside Justice's homes if you are a leftist but nowhere if you're conservative. Can't anyone hear how this all sounds? Dogs are meowing and cats are barking.

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Yes, the hypocrisy of the diversity and inclusion movement that openly attacks Jews. But they are leftists and allowed to engage in their own hypocrisy.

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This Inclusion movement is a Euphemism. Asians are also not included. Check the recent statistics abt. Violence towards the latter.

And turn on Bill Maher.

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I get it and watch Bill Maher weekly. You are correct that Asians and excluded.

But the real end game that is being hidden is about class, not race or diversity. Many authors have discussed this concept and I happen to agree. Diversity and inclusion is a cover for a class battle. With the media leading the charge.

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I can’t help but wonder what the Jew who was nailed to a cross would think about: (“…inclusivity, equity and diversity…)?

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The reality is that the Palestinian “cause” has been on life support for quite some time, the reality coming more clearly into public view as an increasing number of Sunni Arab countries come out in their contacts, connections and relations (security, commercial and artistic) with Israel. With a malign and hegemonic Iran seemingly resurgent, the Palestinians- always pawns in Arab anti-Israel politics anyway - were now dispensable and, so, have been dispensed with, but for the occasion lip service.

The result is an increase of “passion” as expressed through antisemitic tropes in the West, with Harvard being one example among many. The increase in terror attacks in Israel is another example of the desperation by extremists terror groups to remain relevant.

In reading the Crimson editorial, I couldn’t help but detect a certain patronizing condescension, we support your cause as an act of solidarity with the supposedly downtrodden. It’s about feelings, not critical thinking because, well, Jews.

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Yes, the Sunni Arab states have figured out that aligning with Israel is good from a security and economic perspective against a malignant Iran. This makes the Palestinians irrelevant as they have overplayed their hand.

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The best comment so far the Palestinians have lost their front line status and don’t hold the fort anymore even with the UN they had been pushed to the back burner when President Trump was elected it made their story even worse especially when he moved the embassy to Jerusalem if they want to remain relevant they must come to the negotiating table and see how to go forward instead their agenda has been made quite clear they want the destruction of Israel it’s never going to happen you need only see recent terrors attacks how their minds work but Israel is strong

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Yes, on the money. The Arabs of Palestine were always tools in someone else's struggle -- the tip of someone else's spear. Now that essentially all Sunni Arab countries (except for Qatar) are moving toward opening to Israel, the Palestinian issue has been quietly dropped. It's now all about Iran, which (unlike Israel) poses a real threat to the Sunni Arab countries.

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It's sad to see what sheep a lot of these college activists are. Led around by the nose, bullied into silence, not allowed to think critically. It's pathetic. Defund universities.

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And yet we are being asked to pay back their loans. Pony up Harvard, Oberlin, Berkely etc.

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😡😡

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Ben... called "Communism"

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Sadly, Harvard is private. So, it is defunded.....short of all the usual government checks they all get. But I agree with your point.

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May 8, 2022·edited May 8, 2022

Harvard Student Rapoport was one of the main writers of the "BDS just the Jews, Free Palestine" borderline illiterate editorial. She proudly proclaims on Twit, "I am Jewish"!. The "As a Jew", hear me roar, notice me, love me fellow progressives and Muslims, as they seek to advance their careers as a professional Progressive by slandering the most important Jewish thing of the last century, Israel.

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Wasn't the editorial unsigned? I know these people are subliterate and barely known even basic chronology or geography.

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St Johns in Annapolis and Santa Fe. Reading and discussion based. Explore the Western canon.

I hope you are as “attuned” to the treatment of other groups by the fascist, totalitarian left. How many conservative speakers have been threatened or shut down on college campuses? The left DOES NOT care about facts.

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Did anyone told the Harvard Crimson editors that joining BDS is akin to join the 1930's Nazi party??

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They wouldn't understand. They're so convince that Republicans are Nazis that they're willing and eager to believe that the Left's increasingly fascist behavior is an genuine attempt to save "democracy."

Unfortunately for our republic, the "democracy" they want is pure democracy, mob rule, with Democrats eternally in charge.

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That's what I can't understand either. Apparently these people are so ignorant that they don't realize that they are using the very tactics they purport to oppose. When conservative speakers like Douglas Murray, Ayaan Hirsi Ali, etc. need massive police protection at universities ( which are supposed to be places where differing views can be discussed rationally) it's a sign that the "antifascists" are behaving in a fascist manner. Why can't they see this?

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They've been taught that the end justifies the means--they even have a saying "By any means necessary." That no action is wrong if you're doing it to "bad" people--"Punch a Nazi," and everyone who disagrees with you is a Nazi.

Their ideas have ceased to be political opinions, but instead have become absolutist ideologies: beliefs they are willing to commit atrocities for the sake of.

It's a kind of secular religion in which being born white is the ultimate Original Sin. In which heresies merit an Inquisition.

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Celia...in order to be really funny, got to be true and that is really funny...serious.

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This latest scourge of anti-semitism will only cease when these misguided children are foreclosed from opportunities in the workplace as a consequence of their radicalism. I am personally taking steps in my own workplace to insure that no student that seeks to cancel speakers, engage in anti-semitic speech or otherwise promotes illiberal conduct that is inconsistent with the ideals of our Republic will ever secure gainful employment. If successful, then these so-called soldiers will be forced to do what one does when they are not qualified to do anything else, namely, teach as a so called institution of higher learning. Take down names, video the conduct and cancel these people from society.

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2024 is just around the corner.

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Does anyone still hold the delusion that progressive institutions care even a wit about truth?

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Corwin... still called "Communism"

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At the root is an increase in anti-white racism. You can see it all over those murals. It recycles the same imagery used in black nationalism in the US.

We can recognize anti-semitism because we've seen it before. I don't think we can recognize the deeper thread of what's going on with whiteness in the US.

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there is an enormous wave of self-loathing present in America's woke.

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It’s a major problem in America today the anti white is growing daily especially for white males

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In fact I thought quite a lot about my comment to you about the anti white sentiment in America today and I realized a very sobering thought Joe is not exactly the right kind of white guy we should have at the helm neither are those other dogs underneath him they themselves being all white males are not for the average American they have not lived the life they have always been privilege that’s why I like JD Vance he knows what it’s like to be a few packets of ramen noodles away from the next paycheck!

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So the so-called (or formerly) best institutions of higher learning in our country are now indoctrinating our future leaders with hate - not just hate for Jews, but also hate for America's history, hate for America's institutions, and ultimately hate for America's promise. How do we counter that?

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1. Don't donate to their billion dollar endowments. 2. Don't hire their spawn. 3. For state institutions, states can install trustees that insist on diversity of thought and an end to leftist bigotry.

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Never again. I will defend the Jewish community to my death.

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