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Tim's avatar

Have not seen any discussion in TFP regarding the recent SCOTUS ruling on campaign/party coordination. This is huge, and will vest the parties with even more control on the candidates selected, supported, “pushed”.

Steven Judd's avatar

Please stop calling our representatives ‘leaders’. In America we are our own leaders, mores the pity.

Doc's avatar

On Liel’s piece “twin visions.” With all due respect, DEAD WRONG…….

Twin? “Twin” Presupposes likeness in intent. INTENTIONALITY.

INTENT MEANS EVERYTHING IN THE CONSTRUCTION OF A SYSTEM OF a NATION’S JUSTICE and ASPIRATIONS.

Not so with the left, especially leftdemmcomms. Theirs’ is a collective. “WE” is prioritized over “I” (except for the leadership).

In other words, one has a vision of COLLECTIVE OUTCOMES.

The other has a vision of INDIVIDUAL OUTCOMES. Aspiration and Freedom are concomitants.

The first, the collective vision, is actually much more egregious, since it is so hypocritical. The leaders will always have more, get more, power. Aspiration will get a collective group adherent in trouble. They will be called out on it. Cancelled. Or, worse. COLLECTIVE GUILT. FREEDOM IS TEMPERED WITH COLLECTIVE OUTCOMES AND RESPONSIBILITY. THEREFORE, NO ONE PERSON IS HELD TO ACCOUNT. Justice is mitigated by selection of group victimization.

The second vision of the individual is the FREEDOM TO ASPIRE.

INDIVIDUAL FREEDOM RULES ACTION - JUSTICE IS BASED ON INDIVIDUAL OUTCOMES AND RESPONSIBILITY.

“Two nations” Agreed.

Two different systems of culture, justice, equality, and FREEDOM.

KARYN TRUITT's avatar

Mamdani has absolutely NO business commenting on America in any way, shape or form. If America is so bad, he can go back HOME to his own shithole country.

Mark's avatar

As a citizen does he not have the right to present his opinion?

KARYN TRUITT's avatar

Oh, look... Trump pardoned a Republican...

Did he do it with an Autopen??

EKB ✡️ 🕎 🇺🇸's avatar

So the dems are poised to vote in as their candidate in Michigan a Hezbollah loving guy, plus. don't forget he thinks Hasan Piker, of Hamas is great and 9/11 was deserved, is the best, as well. Far be it for me to say anything to the heads of the democratic party, but your party is made up of human bottom feeders and antiAmerican shitbags. I hope the democratic party implodes and takes those commie islamist freaks with it.

Charles Clemens's avatar

Questions about politics creating Presidential Pardons is old news. Consider Biden's decision to "pardon" his entire criminal syndicate before and when they were found guilty of treason, extortion, using the power of the USA to promote their crooked business ventures, etc., etc..

Clarity Seeker's avatar

Q for NYers: if today there was a new election for mayor and it was mamdani v Bloomberg who would win? How would each borough vote ?

Q2 for NYers: who kept their AC above 78

Q3: how do you feel about the Lord Mayors wife electing to.spend july 4 in Mallorca ( or did she send postcards expressing her love for and pride regarding her country)?

Doc's avatar

On Dr. Cornell West: One of the long-time grifters of the 60s.

I once admired him.

That is, until, after following him for decades, I realized that he was stuck in his own story, his own sense of GRANDIOSITY. I realized it when he was challenged on his views. One could palpably feel the resentment in his demeanor. How dare this person. He demanded respect. Demanded it. Bristled at the notion anyone would not stay glued to his every word. You see any professor worth her/his mettle, is always growing, learning, researching. Not stuck. NEVER STATIC. That was my serendipity. That is when I realized (as a doctoral chair/practitioner for decades, among my other professions) that West, the Academic, was NOT out to be emergent but comfortably stuck in the 60s and the remnants of slavery.

Even if you are teaching the classics in literature or philosophy, you always apply it to reality testing somewhere in your classes. You bring it home, as it were, to each student’s/candidate’s (no matter the age, mine were usually 30-50) reality. It forces them to digest and interpret their existential reality to that of the authors and the era. To own it or discard it. Or, be inspired to re-write it and publish it. I did when I was a doctoral candidate.

NOTICE West’s ATTIRE AS WELL. SAME OVER DECADES. IT SENDS A MESSAGE. He had not changed for over 50 years, at my last guess. That is where he felt comfortable and made his fortune. Being empirical or emergent in his research and teaching would stunt any hopes for greater or wider income. Sharpton is an exemplar of this oeuvre, as well.

And if you notice, he calls everyone: “My brother.” “My sister.” How patronizingly demanding of respect and agreement and how shallow. I would like once for a challenger to say to him. “ I AM NOT YOUR BROTHER.” He is from the parasitic realm of the lazy leftdemmcomms. And he uses religion to counter his challengers (with the old southern slavery twinge in his voice - that linguistic trick of black pastors). The fact that he is stuck in the 60s makes him a lazy academic. He fits well in the CNBNCNOW crowd of victims. I recall West/Dershowitz challenges. I have several of their books of arguments. Many years ago both had gravitas. Dershowitz grew. West did not. The world is not static. It is in a constant state of change. West remained stuck in the 60s.

Should the United States be a “force for good?” Is that our remit? Or, do our founding documents state “among these rights are Life, Liberty, and PURSUIT of happiness.” ???? PURSUIT. West, along with his ilk of grifters, usually found on CNBC (CNBCNOW), are not creators or producers. They are NOT ASPIRATIONAL. They do not pursue. They DEMAND as victims. If anything they PURSUE MORE VICTIMIZATION. OTHERWISE, THEY WOULD NOT EXIST AT ALL.

If it were not ther victim past, they would have no past or FUTURE AT ALL. West is a prime exemplar. COLLECTIVE GOOD.

A “force for good” presupposes America’s remit, according to West. I would challenge this by suggesting that to be an American means you ARE FREE TO PURSUE THE GOOD, AND YOUR OWN SELF-INTERESTS, AND NOT BE FOCUSED ON the COLLECTIVE GOOD.

That means it is up to EACH INDIVIDUAL TO “PURSUE HAPPINESS”. West sits with collective always.

Faith Ham's avatar

Am I the only one who thinks Leibovitz was spot on? Mamdani and all he espouses are absolutely repulsive and must be stopped using the greatest, most sacred tool of revolution we have — our vote.

I voted three times for Trump in the general, but never in the primary. A year and a half in, I remember why. He’s no conservative. No protector of the Declaration. He has no concept of our exceptionalism. Why? He believes in big government just as firmly as Mamdani does.

Did the Founders anticipate either one? Probably, because human nature is as predicable as the sun’s course along the horizon. Therein is their genius and our exceptionalism. They knew that certain rights exist as surely as the air we breathe. They also recognized each inalienable right as a moral good needing protection; these rights are not a free pass to do and take whatever we want. This is why I’m so disappointed in Trump. He’ll mouth the words; given his education, he surely understands them. Does he believe them with the fervency that a man entrusted with the obligation to protect those rights must?

Nevertheless, Trump and his gang can and sometimes do deliver in Reaganesque fashion. Ezra Jin is free. The Chinese could have released him Friday, or yesterday, or any other day of the year. That they did so on Saturday is no coincidence. For that I say, thank you, Mr. President.

Clarity Seeker's avatar

All very true. Voting of course is binary: this one or that one. Trump has many flaws . But as lanny often writes it's all relative in terms of the other choice

Faith Ham's avatar

So true. And given that same choice today, I’d still go with the flawed candidate over the patently stupid one.

Dr. Tom Servo's avatar

It is reassuring to see that Cornel West hasn't stopped being a whiny, victimized little bitch.

Mark's avatar

not sure you listened to the podcast, not at all the vibe. But great addition to the discourse. Well done

KARYN TRUITT's avatar

The more things 'change, the more they say the same...

Clarity Seeker's avatar

Leopards and spots?

AG's avatar

"A marine heat wave is sweeping the Pacific Ocean,"

Damn those marines, always creating trouble. :P

Alan Sewell's avatar

Yes, two Fourths of July. Normal Americans celebrated it in the way John Adams prophesized on the first Fourth of July:

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The Fourth of July 1776 will be the most memorable epoch in the history of America. I am apt to believe that it will be celebrated by succeeding generations as the great anniversary festival, from one end of this continent to the other, from this time forward, forevermore. I am well aware of the toil and bloodshed and treasure that it will cost us to maintain this Declaration and support and defend these states. Yet through all the gloom I can see the rays of ravishing light and glory.

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We celebrated it with patriotic music, fireworks, and the comradery of happy people in a happy country bequeathed to us by the brave and decent people from the Founders' to the present, who steered us over the rocky shoals of foreign wars, Civil War, and endless domestic controversies.

While Liberals, Pinkos, Commies, and Leftwinger Democrats characterized it like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7JRvwfHFwo

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Since we are talking about history, I learned a rather interesting perspective on Declaration Weekend. That perspective was that what we're really celebrating is the independence of a multi-partner investment venture that broke free from its obligation to the monarchy. It's just been sold to us as "we the people," but its actually "them, the people" and the story we're told is the propaganda to "keep the country going": https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-myth-of-the-american-revolution

Very interesting perspective indeed.

Alan Sewell's avatar

Thanks, I read that. The economics of having an American economy free of "taxation without representation" was a big part of it. But there was more to it than just that; otherwise, those 49 farmers who perished at Lexington and Concord, who had no economic interests larger than the closest farmers market, would not have risked death to get the British out of their harir.

In 1835, Nathaniel Hawthorne wrote story of The Gray Champion about an unknown hero who rallied the ordinary people of New England to fight for their rights against the King decades before the Revolution:

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THERE WAS a time when New-England groaned under heavier wrongs than those that brought the Revolution.

[The King of England had ordered his army to suppress the Colonies. An old man stepped forth from the crowd. Alone, he commanded the King's Army to halt].

The eye, the face, and attitude of command; the solemn, yet warlike peal of that voice, fit either to rule a host in the battlefield or be raised to God in prayer, were irresistible. At the old man's word and outstretched arm, the roll of the drum was hushed at once, and the advancing line stood still. A tremulous enthusiasm seized upon the multitude.

That stately form, combining the leader and the saint.... could only belong to some old champion of the righteous cause, whom the oppressor's drum had summoned from his grave. They raised a shout of awe and exultation and looked for the deliverance of New-England.

When eighty years had passed, the Gray Champion reappeared. The occasion was the revolutionary summer of 1775—when America's elders once again appealed to God, summoned the young to battle, and dared the hated enemy to fire. When our fathers were toiling at the breastwork on Bunker's Hill, all through that night the old warrior walked his rounds

Long, long may it be, ere he comes again! His hour is one of darkness, adversity, and peril. But should domestic tyranny oppress us, or the invader’s step pollute our soil, still may the Gray Champion come.

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There was a SPIRIT to the American Revolution that was a lot more than mere money.

dave walker's avatar

👏👏🇺🇸

William P Warford's avatar

Not to nitpick but to point out an interesting historical factoid: Adams actually wrote that to Abigail not about July 4th but July 2nd. That was the day the Continental Congress passed Richard Henry Lee's resolution for independence. The holiday became the 4th because that was the day they adopted the written Declaration of Independence. So if Adams had his way, the 250th would have been Thursday, and we would not have had a three-day weekend. :)

Alan Sewell's avatar

Thanks, I have the quote in its original form and used to quote it this way::

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The [Fourth] of July 1776 will be the most memorable epoch in the history of America.

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I decided to take a liberty with the quote (literally and figuratively) by substituting 4th for 2nd this time. But but you noticed it was incorrect, so I'll go back to quoting it the way he wrote it.

My other favorite quote from him was from 1765, 11 years before the quote above:

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I always consider the settlement of America with reverence and wonder, as the opening of a grand scene, and design in Providence, for the illumination of the ignorant and the emancipation of the slavish part of Mankind all over the earth.

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About a year ago I saw the John Adams miniseries from 2008 for the first time. It is the best historical miniseries I have ever seen, by far. It captured every nuance of his personality, as well as every nuance of the history he lived through. A most remarkable miniseries. It's on Amazon.

Pamela's avatar

You should read McCullough's book, too. It is wonderful.

Michelle Styles's avatar

Norway beat Brazil and England beat Mexico (down to 10 men because of a foul). It remains to be seen if Starmer petitions Infantino over the red card or if England plays someone else for their Saturday match against Norway.

I'd honestly thought both Norway and England would go out, give the historical strength of Brazil and Mexico but no.

The World Cup is exciting. Now is the time to start watching if you haven't already.